Graal Forums  

Go Back   Graal Forums > Development Forums > Future Improvements
FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-08-2010, 07:23 AM
benpoke103 benpoke103 is offline
Zvarri!
benpoke103's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 332
benpoke103 will become famous soon enough
RC: Only load scripts/classes/dbnps for which you have access

This may not be implemented however,

When accessing any of the aforementioned, would it be possible to load only the necessary things for which you actually have rights for, so normal developers don't get cluttered with scripts they can not actually utilize?

By this, I mean in the actual Class/Weapon/DBNpc windows
__________________
Need support? Here's how to reach me.

Forum PM (Preferred)
#graaldt @ Freenode
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-08-2010, 07:32 AM
cbk1994 cbk1994 is offline
the fake one
cbk1994's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 10,718
cbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to cbk1994
This would be great for testbed (though I feel like it should be an RC option— there are times when you need to see the weapon list).
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-08-2010, 07:52 AM
DustyPorViva DustyPorViva is offline
Will work for food. Maybe
DustyPorViva's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 9,589
DustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to DustyPorViva Send a message via MSN to DustyPorViva
Sadly I imagine this would require an update to the RC. However, shoot it towards Skyld. Sure, the scripted RC isn't really loved, but good additions like this will only work to help it in the end. Especially if GUI's and such ever get fixed.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-08-2010, 08:04 AM
cbk1994 cbk1994 is offline
the fake one
cbk1994's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 10,718
cbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to cbk1994
Quote:
Originally Posted by DustyPorViva View Post
Sadly I imagine this would require an update to the RC. However, shoot it towards Skyld. Sure, the scripted RC isn't really loved, but good additions like this will only work to help it in the end. Especially if GUI's and such ever get fixed.
I think Tig is managing the scripted RC now. Either way, I wouldn't bother. No one uses it.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-08-2010, 08:05 AM
Cubical Cubical is offline
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,348
Cubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant future
That would be awesome seeing as how I can only use Scripted RC. I spend half my time scrolling around trying not to miss what I have access to on testbed.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-08-2010, 08:18 AM
cbk1994 cbk1994 is offline
the fake one
cbk1994's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 10,718
cbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond reputecbk1994 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to cbk1994
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cubical View Post
I can only use Scripted RC
Why?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-08-2010, 08:28 AM
DustyPorViva DustyPorViva is offline
Will work for food. Maybe
DustyPorViva's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 9,589
DustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond reputeDustyPorViva has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to DustyPorViva Send a message via MSN to DustyPorViva
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbk1994 View Post
I think Tig is managing the scripted RC now. Either way, I wouldn't bother. No one uses it.
It would be halfway worth it if GUI's were fixed. Hence most of my original post mentioning that very thing :P

Changes like this that can't even be made to the external RC may as well be added to the scripted one. Eventually the additions may just make it worth converting. Better than letting the ideas stagnate in dead threads and never being implemented anywhere.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-08-2010, 09:42 AM
Cubical Cubical is offline
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,348
Cubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant futureCubical has a brilliant future
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbk1994 View Post
Why?
I have no clue, it wont start up and the process doesn't show up in task manager. I have tried RC for 1.2.7, 1.3.9, 1.4.1 and they work but I just can't use those. Would anyone happen to have an older copy of RC that is still usable?

Edit: Couldn't you do something similar to what jerret did and just make an addon that removes anything you don't have rights to from the tree.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-08-2010, 01:58 PM
Crow Crow is offline
ǝɔɐɹq ʎןɹnɔ
Crow's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Germany
Posts: 5,153
Crow has a reputation beyond reputeCrow has a reputation beyond reputeCrow has a reputation beyond reputeCrow has a reputation beyond reputeCrow has a reputation beyond reputeCrow has a reputation beyond reputeCrow has a reputation beyond reputeCrow has a reputation beyond reputeCrow has a reputation beyond reputeCrow has a reputation beyond reputeCrow has a reputation beyond repute
I don't think this would need an actual RC update. Just needs a minor change on the server to not send the full list(s) to the RC client.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-08-2010, 04:45 PM
fowlplay4 fowlplay4 is offline
team canada
fowlplay4's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 5,200
fowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond repute
Being able to categorize scripts into collapsible tree-lists would also be great for NC, and that would require an update to RC.
__________________
Quote:
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-08-2010, 05:13 PM
WhiteDragon WhiteDragon is offline
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,002
WhiteDragon is a splendid one to beholdWhiteDragon is a splendid one to beholdWhiteDragon is a splendid one to beholdWhiteDragon is a splendid one to beholdWhiteDragon is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by fowlplay4 View Post
Being able to categorize scripts into collapsible tree-lists would also be great for NC, and that would require an update to RC.
Depending on the structure of how people store scripts on their server, that could certainly create a lot more clicking for little reason; it'd only be helpful in places with an extremely large and hierarchical structure like Testbed, where you'd often only be working in one subtree.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-08-2010, 05:30 PM
fowlplay4 fowlplay4 is offline
team canada
fowlplay4's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 5,200
fowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond reputefowlplay4 has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteDragon View Post
Depending on the structure of how people store scripts on their server, that could certainly create a lot more clicking for little reason; it'd only be helpful in places with an extremely large and hierarchical structure like Testbed, where you'd often only be working in one subtree.
Which is why we'll probably have to wait for V6 RC so we can make these modifications on our own since it only affects a couple servers.
__________________
Quote:
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-08-2010, 08:25 PM
Tigairius Tigairius is offline
The Cat
Tigairius's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Missouri, USA
Posts: 4,240
Tigairius has a brilliant futureTigairius has a brilliant futureTigairius has a brilliant futureTigairius has a brilliant futureTigairius has a brilliant futureTigairius has a brilliant futureTigairius has a brilliant futureTigairius has a brilliant future
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbk1994 View Post
I think Tig is managing the scripted RC now. Either way, I wouldn't bother. No one uses it.
I make a few updates here or there on it, but I think it's still primarily Skyld's project. My main project is GK and the playerlist.
__________________


“Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.”
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-08-2010, 08:28 PM
WhiteDragon WhiteDragon is offline
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,002
WhiteDragon is a splendid one to beholdWhiteDragon is a splendid one to beholdWhiteDragon is a splendid one to beholdWhiteDragon is a splendid one to beholdWhiteDragon is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by fowlplay4 View Post
Which is why we'll probably have to wait for V6 RC so we can make these modifications on our own since it only affects a couple servers.
Wouldn't it be protected or so? Because otherwise someone could modify the RC of an administrator through script and change "open player attributes" to "grant all rights to EvilScripterBob" or something similar.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-08-2010, 08:35 PM
benpoke103 benpoke103 is offline
Zvarri!
benpoke103's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 332
benpoke103 will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by fowlplay4 View Post
Being able to categorize scripts into collapsible tree-lists would also be great for NC, and that would require an update to RC.
Tabs were on my mind as well, too.
__________________
Need support? Here's how to reach me.

Forum PM (Preferred)
#graaldt @ Freenode
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 05:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright (C) 1998-2019 Toonslab All Rights Reserved.