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Originally Posted by Crow
Not even rude. Stop taking things personal. Didn't read any further.
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Okay, telling us that we are in over our heads because we were asking for help for something that apparently needs only the 'basics of programming'-jazz may not be as rude.
However, claiming that I have a lot of trouble with search engines without analyzing the situation, and taking into account I only used the Graal Forums search engine, and it did not show, nor show in the code gallery, I do find rude, unnecessary. The fact that I mentioned it also, was due to my ignorance and and lack of awareness that this was a year old, and it seems like almost everything is now hidden. (I only see about 20 things in the code gallery, pretty sure there use to be more.)
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Originally Posted by xXziroXx
EDIT: So I watched some more, and really, you need to either take a few steps back or just hire someone that knows the difference between code and flags.
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This statement was not rude, and he took the time to analyze the situation. I did have a mistake since I don't know much about the NPC section and why flags, attributes, and script shows three different things. Nor why the script randomly disappeared after it was set, and turned into flags.
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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva
It doesn't matter how amazing and helpful a person is, if they try to sit down and teach me Calculus and I don't have a fundamental understanding of math, they're not going to get anywhere and chances are we're both going to end up getting pretty frustrated with each other for no actual reason [and you're gonna have a bad time].
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I will have to disagree with this one, because this is what teachers do. The other person could learn it over time as well as everything else to do with it.
I would however agree with this, in the fact that I was not asking for him to teach me, but to give step by step details in how it would be implemented. So if he did try to explain what it was doing, which I don't care about, I'd probably be terribly confused.
In my own opinion and ignorance, it seems to me
I would have to add an
NPC, add
two classes, make sure the
server options are correct as well as the
NPC Servers rights. Then
add in the appropriate parts.
That is 7 steps.
Maybe I'm totally wrong, I don't know.
Since you did use person, I can't judge and assume that it was implemented to be Cujo and I, so I can only say both Cujo and I do for the most part know, or know some of the basic fundamentals of GS2. As well as math.. If it helps, I've taken fundamentals of programming as well as C programming in college. Visual Basics in high school. I've been doing GS1 since 2003 and started GS2 in I guess 2010. My math is very rusty but I've taken up to trigonometry... twice sadly.
So giving steps to follow, usually called a tutorial, should help in implementing such a system as this, since I
believe the
objective of the
code gallery is to
use them if it would help progress the server.
Learning is only
additional, not an necessity. Meaning some things should be learned, but not necessary.
I however will later be contributing things that I do in the future, like my waterfall, and my beach, countertops, and other things, as well as providing a tutorial in how I did them so others can learn. This type of additional work one cannot expect from many people, and I understand that.
I
probably couldn't learn what it is doing, or how it is doing it.
I could however
learn how to use it.
With the given help.
I understand it does not seem like you are taking sides, but you must know that this system does seem, to me at least, that a background is not needed to implement this into a server. I believe the lack of willpower, time, and people wanting it done is the only thing stopping the creator. However, he could have said no, and I would have left a while ago. My feelings probably less opinionated towards them however.
Code Gallery:
For showing complete scripts, if possible with comments.
Maybe they aren't for using, but only stardom, who knows. I believe some people post to help out. However, it does say nothing about them having to explain it, and that is up to the thread creator, which is why I would have accepted a no to helping. Instead of egging me on, and once again instead on hinting that I am inadequate. (Perhaps it is his own personality, and it wasn't personal attacks as someone stated above, then this is only a matter of my opinion.)
But telling me to do it over a few times, asking me to be concise in what I was doing which I did, and then flat out saying I'm doing it wrong and can't do it... is a waste of both our time. He did however hit he might help towards the middle, in which I was grateful for, I'll give him props for that...
The video thing was on my own accord, and I'm not saying that was a waste of time, I did it because I felt it could better help. He did say it was unnecessary which is fine.
Conclusion:
From what I see, obviously if many people feel that he has tried to explain it, and my persuasion and justifications aren't enlightening anyone. Perhaps everyone is right. Maybe this program should not be given to the average Graal community, and it should perhaps be said so, as I once mentioned before.
Explanation of a few things that may be regarded in future messages.
1. I did pass in C Programming, but dropped out of computer science to go into Art.
2. Both Trig and C were four years ago.
3. If I can do a 10 page essay in three hours, this isn't much of a waste of time for me.
I also understand a lot of people are on Graal either to have fun, or even, possibly a lack of education and cannot comprehend long essay type writings, which I do have trouble in shortening due to the fact I feel things should be justified; therefore do not indulge in reading. I don't mind putting what I feel is most important in bold.
I know I should improve on shortening my replies, and it has been hard for me.
(I've probably edited this post about 10 times due to it not being to my standards)
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