Graal2001 remake... what would you... - Page 9

Brad · #**121** 06-08-2005, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan

as an olde player of Graal2001 I'd like to see what **** you come up with.

you're not an old player of 2k1

so your opinion is not welcome here

Waltz5 · #**122** 06-08-2005, 06:37 PM

Clearly if it failed with the old content then common sense would tell you it needs new stuff. A new tileset is one of the things that Koni feels should change. I agree with him.

Tileset and the beginning stages of the character look amazing. Koni, you single handedly have revived my interest in Graal simply because of this project.

protagonist · #**123** 06-08-2005, 06:54 PM

I think that the new bodies killed 2k1 as well. They were frustrating. They made playing survivor a *****.

WanDaMan · #**124** 06-08-2005, 07:29 PM

Why not make Graal2001 again if the old stuff failed? re-make it all.

konidias · #**125** 06-08-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan

Why not make Graal2001 again if the old stuff failed? re-make it all.

Because doing everything from scratch defeats the purpose of "revision". It's no longer 2k1 if you don't use the old content in some way. The original server didn't fail, the old revision failed because it lacked anything new and things just seemed to get worse. I don't really feel like turning this into a "change wan's mind" thread. You're entitled to your opinion, I just wish you wouldn't sling out such negative comments with little to back them up.

Someone brought up a good example of what a revision basically is. If you look at Pokemon Red for the gameboy, it's a far cry from "Pokemon Fire Red" for the gameboy advance. They revised all the graphics and stuff, but the levels are mostly the same. They improved on some npc characters, I think they added the new pokemon and some new areas? (unsure) But still, it's basically the original with all new graphics and some new stuff thrown in. It's selling like hotcakes though.

Trevor · #**126** 06-08-2005, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad

you're not an old player of 2k1

so your opinion is not welcome here

Why does someone have to be an old player to know what will be good for the
revival?

Amagius · #**127** 06-09-2005, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias

If you look at Pokemon Red for the gameboy, it's a far cry from "Pokemon Fire Red" for the gameboy advance. They revised all the graphics and stuff, but the levels are mostly the same. They improved on some npc characters, I think they added the new pokemon and some new areas? (unsure) But still, it's basically the original with all new graphics and some new stuff thrown in. It's selling like hotcakes though.

Updates (As many as I can remember):

Improved Graphics
Addition of breeding and shiny creatures
Nine new islands
Access to the Gold and Silver creatures
Same evolution formulas from Ruby and Sapphire

I know this probably wasn't necessary, but for the sake of completion.

konidias · #**128** 06-09-2005, 08:03 AM

As you can see from my avatar, I've started playing around with new bomy sprites, starting with the Naifets bomy. I've given them more angle and shading, as well as a smoother transition from idle to hiding. (as seen in the animation)

For a comparison of the old naifets and new, here is an animation:

I had an interesting chat about bomies today and have learned some things about them that I didn't know before. Anyway, for bomies I plan to take a more planned out approach. The bomies will remain black, there will no longer be strange colored bomies. The shells will stay consistent in size and basic shape, bomies will basically have default characteristics and more restraint on what qualifies as a bomy. The bomies I have chosen so far for the revision are:

Alma
Ambient
Barmy
Birce
Blort
Brado
Draktha
Fossilio
Golg
Herm
Kagon
Kawie
Kever
Khyle
Naifets
Nephi
Nero
Nex
Pirat
Scale
Shroomy
Viso
Waiko
Xen

So 24 in total... quite a bit of work but they will get done throughout the revision development. :P Of course, this is mainly just the outer shell. The body, shell and feet will all be seperated in the gani now. You will be able to mix and match the shell, body, and shoes on your bomy pet.

WanDaMan · #**129** 06-09-2005, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias

Because doing everything from scratch defeats the purpose of "revision". It's no longer 2k1 if you don't use the old content in some way. The original server didn't fail, the old revision failed because it lacked anything new and things just seemed to get worse.

Yeah, but then a completely new tileset also beats it. You won't be able to change my mind with that tileset