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Old 03-13-2011, 02:14 AM
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Question v6: What is needed for release?

For the final release of v6 for Windows, Mac and Linux,
what should be done before the release:
- What bugs need a fix?
- What features or implementations need improvements, and what kind of improvements?

This discussion should be mainly about technically issues, not about server quality, payment options etc. Basicly the question is: what should be done before replacing the v5 download with the v6 download?
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:23 AM
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- What features or implementations need improvements, and what kind of improvements?
I'm sure 100% sure if this is what you are asking for. If it isn't, I apologize, and go ahead and delete this post if you want:

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Could you possilby implement a feature where when you login to login it replaces global images with the correct image instead of an overwrite? That would help a lot.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:26 AM
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Have you considered adding something that automatically updates the client and just requires a client restart to switch into the new version? This is what Google Chrome does and it's incredibly useful for pushing out updates. It would make client updates a lot easier to do, and make this switch from v5 to v6 a lot less "big".

I'm not personally aware of any bugs in v6, but there will (probably) be some found in the future, so I think getting a streamlined update system would be a good move.

Regarding other improvements... well, there is a whole section on the forum for that.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:29 AM
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I dislike how nicknames and chat are not in bold on the v6 WINDOWS client.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:34 AM
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Right off the top of my head:

Sometimes after chatting, when I close the chat bar (with tab) my character will slash.
He will continue to slash if I keep openeing and closing the chat bar.
It stops if the Graal.exe window loses focus, or if I press 's' or type 's' into the chat bar.

If I just press s with the chat bar not up, my character does nothing, he doesn't swing his sword. But then after pressing s the once, I can slash like normal.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:38 AM
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Right off the top of my head:

Sometimes after chatting, when I close the chat bar (with tab) my character will slash.
He will continue to slash if I keep openeing and closing the chat bar.
It stops if the Graal.exe window loses focus, or if I press 's' or type 's' into the chat bar.

If I just press s with the chat bar not up, my character does nothing, he doesn't swing his sword. But then after pressing s the once, I can slash like normal.
One way to replicate this is:
  1. hold down s,
  2. move the focus onto another program (while s is held down),
  3. release s.
Graal won't receive that release and think you still have it held. I have only confirmed this on Linux.

This is even more noticeable when you hold down an arrow key instead of s.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:51 AM
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A more advanced PM box/system that Rufus suggested awhile back. Maybe add a YouTube embedded feature too, like the forums have.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:52 AM
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One way to replicate this is:
  1. hold down s,
  2. move the focus onto another program (while s is held down),
  3. release s.
Graal won't receive that release and think you still have it held. I have only confirmed this on Linux.

This is even more noticeable when you hold down an arrow key instead of s.
The keydown/focus change problem has been reported several times for both v5 and v6
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:31 AM
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Not sure if they is something you fix on V6 or if its cuz im using windows 7 but when i have to hold Q to use my menu on Era i can move my mouse (using touchpad) at the same time.
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:40 AM
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keydown not releasing bug.
This is even more noticeable when you hold down an arrow key instead of s.
This is fixed in the latest Windows V6 Client (OS: W7 64-bit).

Feature Requests:
- Interpolate Player Movement: Era and Zodiac (Weapon: -Interpolation) have their own scripted versions, obviously if it would be done by the client maybe even make it an option in F3.
- Improve Networking Code: Things like player movement and other changes could probably benefit from being sent to the server via UDP. Re-add P2P (UDP) for UN sparrers.
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This is fixed in the latest Windows V6 Client (OS: W7 64-bit).
The tab bar bug I talked about in my post is still there in the latest v6 client, though.

I downloaded the latest client just to test it to make sure it was still there before posting. :P
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:50 AM
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This is fixed in the latest Windows V6 Client (OS: W7 64-bit).
It isn't fixed in the Linux client. Or at least not on my Linux setup, my window manager is fairly nonstandard so it could be doing something unexpected.
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:58 AM
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The tab bar bug I talked about in my post is still there in the latest v6 client, though.

I downloaded the latest client just to test it to make sure it was still there before posting. :P
Are you sure it's not a keyboard failure? (Disregard if you aren't using the latest Windows client)

BUG: While testing I found ChatBar opens with TAB regardless of your in Keys configuration.
FEATURE REQUEST: Add a [Default Keys] button in F3: Keys Tab.
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Old style playerlist would be much appreciated by the majority, seeing as how most players use it (did a poll on multiple servers).

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I dislike how nicknames and chat are not in bold on the v6 WINDOWS client.
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Old 03-13-2011, 06:20 AM
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Old style playerlist would be much appreciated by the majority, seeing as how most players use it (did a poll on multiple servers).
It'd be cool if we could do something like:

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