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[Emera]

A lot of on-line games use this method as a means to keep accounts safe, or safer than if the company decided to let players use a password of their choice.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Emera

A lot of on-line games use this method as a means to keep accounts safe, or safer than if the company decided to let players use a password of their choice.

I play popular games and all of them let you choose your own password.

Dota 2, HoN, Starcraft 2, Minecraft, (WoW and LoL, two gigantic games that i don't play) let you choose your own password.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Emera

A lot of on-line games use this method as a means to keep accounts safe

No, they really don't. I play an extreme amount of online games that surface on the market, and the ONLY things that pestered me about passwords have been Graal and EVE Online, but at least the latter let me chose my own one but with some restrictions.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Emera

A lot of on-line games use this method as a means to keep accounts safe, or safer than if the company decided to let players use a password of their choice.

Eight character passwords are not safe* anymore, and it's been like that for quite a while. It's generally one of the worst ideas to not let customers choose their own passwords.

Edit: I should've explained:
* safe in terms of brute force; doesn't really take that long anymore to brute force an eight character password, as long as the service allows enough attempts per minute.

[BlueMelon]

Originally Posted by Hezzy002

Myself being a real programmer, I'm going to call you out, just based on this post, your name, your signature, and avatar, that you're one of those annoying kids.

Calling me out? My knowledge in the field of computer security and programming are quite vast. With over 4 years of experience, I know what I'm talking about when it comes to malicious software. When people say "keylogger" I think of the literal meaning. Yes, I know software now days can log and steal just about whatever but they are no longer called keyloggers they are called a multi-logger or account/information stealer.

If you would like to explain how I come off like a kid to you, please feel free to PM me.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Emera

A lot of on-line games use this method as a means to keep accounts safe, or safer than if the company decided to let players use a password of their choice.

lmao wat

[DustyPorViva]

Bottom line that forcing generated passwords on users forces them to store the password somewhere(usually saving the email) meaning it's actually easier to obtain than letting them choose their own and keeping the password in their head.

[DARKVILLIN]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Bottom line that forcing generated passwords on users forces them to store the password somewhere(usually saving the email) meaning it's actually easier to obtain than letting them choose their own and keeping the password in their head.

^This is True...

[Gunderak]

The moral of this thread is, "let us choose our own password".

[Admins]

Well the new standard seems to be to generate a password, but also allow setting your own password if it meets some security level. We will probably need to add that sometime, but make it inside the game, not on website.

[Gunderak]

Ok sounds good.
Maybe even make the sign up completely available through the game without opening an external url.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Well the new standard seems to be to generate a password, but also allow setting your own password if it meets some security level. We will probably need to add that sometime, but make it inside the game, not on website.

What kind of services do you use? None of the major sites/services I use generate my password for me at all.

[Unkownsoldier]

In my personal opinion I think that passwords should be as simple as you want them to be - sort of a last line of defense. Why can't we protect our game accounts like we protect our bank accounts with security questions upon every login or registering our specific computer to the account. Tedious I will agree, but people especially in our generation invest a lot of money into games and to have that taken away is basically getting robbed. I hope things like voice recognition will become standard for things that require passwords - as we move forward in the technological age I hope most computers will come equipped with a decent mic.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

In my personal opinion I think that passwords should be as simple as you want them to be - sort of a last line of defense. Why can't we protect our game accounts like we protect our bank accounts with security questions upon every login or registering our specific computer to the account. Tedious I will agree, but people especially in our generation invest a lot of money into games and to have that taken away is basically getting robbed. I hope things like voice recognition will become standard for things that require passwords - as we move forward in the technological age I hope most computers will come equipped with a decent mic.

Graal already has some nice protections built in, they just need to be fixed. PCID locking is great, but we need a way to reset the allowed PCIDs without contacting the PWA, and we need PCIDs to be fixed to be unique for each player again (it's common for multiple players to share a PCID). PCIDs also have some other issues.

[papajchris]

i doubt anyone invests a lot of money into graal. Well maybe them USDers