Classic and Hosting Tab process.

Rufus · #1 10-09-2009, 09:58 PM

I was just wondering, are we still using the dated (and pretty ambiguous) Playerworld Inspection guidelines? They don't really explain the process very well, what is expected of a playerworld, what kind of content is judged, what level its expected to be at, what happens after you've been inspected, or whether you're reviewed on a continued basis. We haven't had any of the current servers being reviewed in a while either, so it seems once you can assume your position is safe which shouldn't be the case.

It would be nice if the process could be defined a little better, and in my opinion servers should be reviewed at least once a year after they've reached their tab milestone.

Tigairius · #2 10-09-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

It would be nice if the process could be defined a little better, and in my opinion servers should be reviewed at least once a year after they've reached their tab milestone.

Yeah, I can agree with this. I have been saying it for a long time, but I think Delteria needs to be removed from the classic list and N-Pulse should be carefully reviewed; they seem to be neglecting the current N-Pulse for their new N-Pulse which is quite an ambitious goal and not realistic for the meantime. Same goes for Delteria. Delteria has been inactive (on the main server) for so long that they shouldn't just get a free ride to classic once their dev work is finished.

Rufus · #3 10-09-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

Yeah, I can agree with this. I have been saying it for a long time, but I think Delteria needs to be removed from the classic list and N-Pulse should be carefully reviewed; they seem to be neglecting the current N-Pulse for their new N-Pulse which is quite an ambitious goal and not realistic for the meantime. Same goes for Delteria. Delteria has been inactive (on the main server) for so long that they shouldn't just get a free ride to classic once their dev work is finished.

Well I didn't really want to make this a thread about servers that don't really pull playercounts or do anything on their server but yeah, it would probably be more beneficial to these servers in the long run if they went off the list. If not to promote an initial 'return' hype, to save face and show that they're not just sitting there stagnating.

Matt · #4 10-09-2009, 11:20 PM

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they seem to be neglecting the current N-Pulse for their new N-Pulse which is quite an ambitious goal and not realistic for the meantime.

I've been aware of this for awhile actually. The Rebirth project is basically on a pause until the next few projects for the main server are complete. Thought i'd let you know fyi. Pay a visit.

Tigairius · #5 10-10-2009, 12:17 AM

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I've been aware of this for awhile actually. The Rebirth project is basically on a pause until the next few projects for the main server are complete. Thought i'd let you know fyi. Pay a visit.

Awesome! When I get time I will come peek at some stuff

Bell · #6 10-15-2009, 08:47 PM

I've changed management on Delteria and separated main from dev basically. Focus has been so much on dev that main has suffered. Main needs to stand on its own or it knows it will go UC.

Bell · #7 10-15-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

I was just wondering, are we still using the dated (and pretty ambiguous) Playerworld Inspection guidelines? They don't really explain the process very well, what is expected of a playerworld, what kind of content is judged, what level its expected to be at, what happens after you've been inspected, or whether you're reviewed on a continued basis. We haven't had any of the current servers being reviewed in a while either, so it seems once you can assume your position is safe which shouldn't be the case.

It would be nice if the process could be defined a little better, and in my opinion servers should be reviewed at least once a year after they've reached their tab milestone.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...51&postcount=2

DesolateRestriction · #8 10-16-2009, 01:58 AM

I don't see how this is going towards progress. Yeah, we have big goals. I mean WHAT would YOU do in our situation?

We can develop all the events, levels, and npcs we want. But unless we really offer something new what's going to bring players from other classic servers? Nothing. Right now, the only way to grab players from the classic theme servers is to manipulate the social network. (IE guilds) but even that will only keep them on for so long.

Bell · #9 10-16-2009, 02:17 AM

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I don't see how this is going towards progress. Yeah, we have big goals. I mean WHAT would YOU do in our situation?

We can develop all the events, levels, and npcs we want. But unless we really offer something new what's going to bring players from other classic servers? Nothing. Right now, the only way to grab players from the classic theme servers is to manipulate the social network. (IE guilds) but even that will only keep them on for so long.

The enigma that is Graal. Do we make stricter requirements for going to Classic or do we allow 20 servers that all have the exact same content just thin out the playercount amongst themselves.

DesolateRestriction · #10 10-16-2009, 02:31 AM

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The enigma that is Graal. Do we make stricter requirements for going to Classic or do we allow 20 servers that all have the exact same content just thin out the playercount amongst themselves.

Neither. You are putting pressure on server managers when we are already fighting an extremely uphill battle for little to no reward other than seeing our server enjoy our hard work (and I'm fine with that.)

The only thing we can do is to work together. I've stressed this point in the past ma'am. I've offered my help to Maloria, even though my time is limited. Ziro said that he'd try to do the same. I am willing to help ANY server ( as long as they are respectful) on ganis and levels.

Bell · #11 10-16-2009, 02:46 AM

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Neither. You are putting pressure on server managers when we are already fighting an extremely uphill battle for little to no reward other than seeing our server enjoy our hard work (and I'm fine with that.)

The only thing we can do is to work together. I've stressed this point in the past ma'am. I've offered my help to Maloria, even though my time is limited. Ziro said that he'd try to do the same. I am willing to help ANY server ( as long as they are respectful) on ganis and levels.

So whats your point. The PWA does not give out free servers, Stefan does. We were asked to put more detail into what the requirements are for hosting and we did. Most these things have been here all along, just not in written form. We'd get requests for classic or hosted from servers that didn't even have working scripts. They were trash thrown together that people would look at and laugh if they logged on. Is that the kind of server you feel should represent the game? When they would be denied they would claim its not written down anywhere whats needed to get to Classic. Now there is. Thats not to say that a server might not make it to Classic if they are missing one detail of it. If its an interesting and fun server but has mediocre graphics, who cares.

Spark910 · #12 10-16-2009, 07:23 PM

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Want to open a temporary world for players while they finish the main world

I think I was inspired by Sanstrata for this point! I remember a 10-20 level temporary overworld which was more fun than the actual released world

Bell · #13 10-16-2009, 08:03 PM

Sometimes I swear smaller is better.

Mark Sir Link · #14 10-16-2009, 08:14 PM

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Sometimes I swear smaller is better.

is that why you're Rufus' mouthpiece nowadays?

Bell · #15 10-16-2009, 10:54 PM

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is that why you're Rufus' mouthpiece nowadays?

I have no idea what you're talking about. If I remember correctly, Rufus and I butt heads on a regular basis. It doesn't mean that none of his ideas have merit. I wasn't aware this was one of them though.