Some opinions on the guns system

[eagle4]

Originally Posted by Meph

I haven't singled any gun out-- the only gun that I changed
drastically was the SMGPK, I've increased the freeze and
the fire rate.

The SMGPK is in the same class as the PPSH-- both are
previous gang guns that aren't for sale in shops any more,
both are probably equal in rarity.

There's no reason why the PPSH should be glorified and
the SMGPK shouldn't. Where the PPSH trades fire rate for
freeze, the SMGPK trades freeze for fire rate.

Oh wow what a coincidence the whole Soul family told each other to buy all SMGPKs! Gee I'm sure that act was 100% legit. I mean just because there are a ton of them in circulation why not buff it CUZ ITS LIKE AN UZI LAWL

[Aldaris]

Why was the Famas buffed, than nerfed again?

You're really messing people up with the prices, and causing many to lose tons of money.

[Motherat]

Originally Posted by DarkRenji

And they should be pissed if they got screwed, They saved up however much money, got the gun of there dreams... then it get screwed?



P.S what happened to guns lol?


P.S.S I thought you were not allowed to have 2 accounts on these forums

haha
dogbert's me

[Meph]

Originally Posted by eagle4

Oh wow what a coincidence the whole Soul family told each other to buy all SMGPKs! Gee I'm sure that act was 100% legit. I mean just because there are a ton of them in circulation why not buff it CUZ ITS LIKE AN UZI LAWL

Taken from my conversation with Sam:

Why'd you buy all the SMGPKs?:
I bought the SMGPKs because I thought it was a cool gun
to represent Leute. I bought five of them and handed them
out to Leute members three weeks prior to getting Staff.

On a server where people want fast guns with low freeze, the
SMGPK didn't contend with the other guns; it had low fire rate
and high freeze by comparison, so they were easy for us to obtain.

They were perfect PKing guns for us though, because we don't
need low freeze/high fire rate to be effective; and they were rare
enough for us to keep them leute-exclusive.

Why did you buff the SMGPKs?
Since Leute started using them, the SMGPKs gained popularity; I've
been getting PMs asking to buff it for weeks. I didn't change it
because I was completely satisfied with it. Then I got a PM from some
random guy, asking "Why does the SMGPK suck and the PPSH rock?"

I stepped back for abit, because I never compared the two-- Then I thought
about it: Both are previous gang guns, not available at shops
anymore-- they're in the same class. They should be comparable.

In adjusting it though, I wanted to make it different from the PPSH-- I
didn't want to give it low freeze, but I didn't want to keep it at such a
disadvantage that I get more PMs asking to buff it; so I increased the fire
rate, and gave it a little more freeze to compensate.

Trust me, I didn't "buff" it to give myself an advantage-- we were completely
satisfied PKing with it before the "buff". This was just to give the gun more
value to the general public, and make it comparable to the PPSH.

Originally Posted by Aldaris

Why was the Famas buffed, than nerfed again?
You're really messing people up with the prices, and causing many to lose tons of money.

I never buffed the Famas-- I'm not sure who did.
I logged on, and got complaints that it was lamer than a Sten; so I adjusted it.

[DarkRenji]

Mp5 and SMGPK are in the same class, is a nerf/buff in order

[Meph]

Originally Posted by DarkRenji

Mp5 and SMGPK are in the same class, is a nerf/buff in order

Due to the high volume of complaints about the SMGPK's fire rate, it's been decreased.

Funny you should say the Mp5-- SMGPK is kinda like it now.

[Aldaris]

I just think that people [staff] need to stop adjusting each gun to such an extent, causing many to lose profits that they worked hard to achieve.

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by Aldaris

I just think that people [staff] need to stop adjusting each gun to such an extent, causing many to lose profits that they worked hard to achieve.

Why? they're just going to get reseted. Might as well make the guns fair now so they can work on other stuff when it is reseted.

[salesman]

Originally Posted by Aldaris

I just think that people [staff] need to stop adjusting each gun to such an extent, causing many to lose profits that they worked hard to achieve.

We're going to really **** up your profit when we reset the server.

[Aldaris]

Originally Posted by salesman

We're going to really **** up your profit when we reset the server.

That's for when you reset the server. The average Era staff works hard at achieving nothing. You guys have done a great job at keeping the server intact thus far, which is why everybody complains about it. Keep up the good work though.

[Frankie]

the thing is, with the server being reset, everyone is being screwed over. when nerfing / buffing guns, certain people are losing / gaining money because of it making it unfair. that's how the players see it, and will complain about it.

also, the whole smgpk thing with the leute people seems pretty sketchy. not saying you did it in purpose but it looks bad and that's the way players are going to view it x.x

[Freudian_slip]

Originally Posted by Frankie

the thing is, with the server being reset, everyone is being screwed over. when nerfing / buffing guns, certain people are losing / gaining money because of it making it unfair. that's how the players see it, and will complain about it.

also, the whole smgpk thing with the leute people seems pretty sketchy. not saying you did it in purpose but it looks bad and that's the way players are going to view it x.x

We run around with "crappy guns" on purpose, everyone knows that. I run around with a tarus, mini-SMG, uzi, SmgPK and a m3.... I highly doubt any of us would buff a weapon for our own personal gain, never the less use a buffed gun unless it wasn't too over the top.

Anywho, players can see it any way they want. To me this is the testing stage to balance the weapons before the reset. If would be stupid to do it any other way than this.

[Aldaris]

I agree that this is a "testing stage," however, staff are taking FAR too long to reset the server. A reset was supposed to occur earlier this year (Around January), yet staff chose to get nothing done in that time period. I'm being harsh, I admit, but this has been dragged out for way too long now...

[DarkRenji]

Originally Posted by Meph

Due to the high volume of complaints about the SMGPK's fire rate, it's been decreased.

Funny you should say the Mp5-- SMGPK is kinda like it now.

Its not funny thats why i said it

[salesman]

Originally Posted by Aldaris

I agree that this is a "testing stage," however, staff are taking FAR too long to reset the server. A reset was supposed to occur earlier this year (Around January), yet staff chose to get nothing done in that time period. I'm being harsh, I admit, but this has been dragged out for way too long now...

Current administration != the administration that announced the reset...I don't even think anyone on the team was staff back when the reset was announced.

Don't blame us for their screwups -- we're just trying to fix it.