What Program was used to create Graal?

[k_killar]

What Program was used to create Graal?

[Pelikano]

Torque-Engine

[Galdor]

Originally Posted by Pelikano

Torque-Engine

no, they bought the torque engine and remade it some for graal 3d. graal was not originally made with torque :P

[Twinny]

I know this one...i think it's a mixture of C++ and Delphi. Pretty sure Stefan has explained it once upon a time....

[Loriel]

We can only speculate what Stefan's favourite text editor is, but at various points we can assume that Sun's Java SDK, some version of Delphi or other, and GNU's g++ was involved.

[Loriel]

Here is an answer that is so uncompromisingly useful that you will not understand a word of it:

$ ldd graal
linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000)
libfmod-3.75.so => not found
libGL.so.1 => //usr/lib32/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1 (0xf7ea6000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXt.so.6 (0xf7e56000)
libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXcursor.so.1 (0xf7e4b000)
libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0xf7e45000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf7e37000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf7e1f000)
libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf7cdc000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0xf7cd8000)
libm.so.6 => /lib32/libm.so.6 (0xf7cb1000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libX11.so.6 (0xf7bc5000)
libGLcore.so.1 => //usr/lib32/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGLcore.so.1 (0xf6cae0
00)
libnvidia-tls.so.1 => //usr/lib32/opengl/nvidia/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.1 (
0xf6cac000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXext.so.6 (0xf6c9d000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libSM.so.6 (0xf6c93000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libICE.so.6 (0xf6c7b000)
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXrender.so.1 (0xf6c72000)
libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib32/libXfixes.so.3 (0xf6c6c000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf7f89000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXau.so.6 (0xf6c68000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xf6c61000)

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by Loriel

Here is an answer that is so uncompromisingly useful that you will not understand a word of it:

$ ldd graal
linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000)
libfmod-3.75.so => not found
libGL.so.1 => //usr/lib32/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1 (0xf7ea6000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXt.so.6 (0xf7e56000)
libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXcursor.so.1 (0xf7e4b000)
libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0xf7e45000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf7e37000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf7e1f000)
libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf7cdc000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0xf7cd8000)
libm.so.6 => /lib32/libm.so.6 (0xf7cb1000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libX11.so.6 (0xf7bc5000)
libGLcore.so.1 => //usr/lib32/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGLcore.so.1 (0xf6cae0
00)
libnvidia-tls.so.1 => //usr/lib32/opengl/nvidia/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.1 (
0xf6cac000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXext.so.6 (0xf6c9d000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libSM.so.6 (0xf6c93000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libICE.so.6 (0xf6c7b000)
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXrender.so.1 (0xf6c72000)
libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib32/libXfixes.so.3 (0xf6c6c000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf7f89000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXau.so.6 (0xf6c68000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xf6c61000)

which means?

[Pelikano]

Originally Posted by loriel

here is an answer that is so uncompromisingly useful that you will not understand a word of it:

:d

[Skyld]

Graal is written in C++ (and contains elements of Delphi for some interface-esque components, or at least, it did). Torque I think was used originally as a way to easily prototype the Graal 3 client, but since then, I think all of the Torque code has been removed and rewritten.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

which means?

Those are the libraries Graal is using on linux apparently. The shared object is the linux equivalent of Window's dynamic link libraries.

[Umat]

GScript 2 is a modified Torque-Script.

The TorqueEngine was first introduced in Graal v3 and the v3 client was mainly made for Graal3D. That's why v2 and v3 co-existed.
v4 was a rewrite of v3
v4 and v5 still uses TorqueEngine.

v4 was the last client that used delphi code (as far as I know) and that was for the login-screen.

[napo_p2p]

Originally Posted by Umat

v4 and v5 still uses TorqueEngine.

Actually, I don't think v5 uses any Torque code anymore.

Originally Posted by Umat

v4 was the last client that used delphi code (as far as I know) and that was for the login-screen.

I may be wrong, but it looks like the external playerlist, profiles and F3 options (for Windows) still use Delphi.

[Admins]

Graal has originally been made with Delphi, with v6 it's pure C++ (plus some Objective-C on Mac and iPhone). We are mainly using vi to code it
We use several libraries, including freetype for fonts, and some part of Torque for the Graal3D networking and 3D objects.

[Twinny]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Graal has originally been made with Delphi, with v6 it's pure C++ (plus some Objective-C on Mac and iPhone). We are mainly using vi to code it
We use several libraries, including freetype for fonts, and some part of Torque for the Graal3D networking and 3D objects.

Ugh...I never use vi for more than I need too.... soon as I can dump it in Notepad++, i'm all good. Now my old boss, he used Vi in Windows

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by stefan

pure c++ [...] mainly using vi