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Old 07-02-2009, 04:24 PM
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That doesn't answer anything really.
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Old 07-02-2009, 05:12 PM
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Quick off-topic thought.

I was on UN earlier and pondered what the average age of the players is. Someone guesstimated 15, which was around what I thought.

Then I thought what the average age of the classicians (from a few months ago, at least) would be. I thought around 17 or so, then realized it'd be around 21 simple because of Bell. LOLOLOLOL
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Old 07-02-2009, 05:37 PM
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Signs are actually serverside too, meaning they use the NPC-server :P Really, it's silly to want to build a server without the NPC-server.
Signs don't have to be server-side.
My point is that the NPC server should be taken down in order to be able to upload the old levels without converting them.

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Old 07-02-2009, 06:55 PM
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Yes, because uploading the old content will save Classic!
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:01 PM
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The NPC Server is a powerful tool that should not be ignored. If they're going to rebuild from the ground up then they need to incorperate it in some way. We'd be making a huge problem for the people down the road if we choose otherwise.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:04 PM
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The NPC Server is a powerful tool that should not be ignored. If they're going to rebuild from the ground up then they need to incorperate it in some way. We'd be making a huge problem for the people down the road if we choose otherwise.
Totally agree. The NPC server isn't going anywhere, and it would be stupid to work backwards instead of forwards.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:19 PM
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Not to mention Graal functioned a lot different pre-NPC-server. The player that entered the level would act as a host for all other players who entered afterwards. So laggy host players would mean NPCs would lag for all other players and so on. I don't even think Graal supports that sort of thing anymore.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:33 PM
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Yes, because uploading the old content will save Classic!
It's better than building the server from the ground and less time-consuming.
The old content could be appealing to both new and old players.


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The NPC Server is a powerful tool that should not be ignored. If they're going to rebuild from the ground up then they need to incorperate it in some way. We'd be making a huge problem for the people down the road if we choose otherwise.
Of course, if they're guild to rebuild from the ground up they should us the NPC server. But in my opinion they don't have to rebuild it.


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Totally agree. The NPC server isn't going anywhere, and it would be stupid to work backwards instead of forwards.
Work backwards instead of forwards?
They got rid of most of the content in order to implement the NPC server.


Also, if Classic retains classic gameplay (as it should), the NPC server is not really necessary.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:49 PM
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It's better than building the server from the ground and less time-consuming.
The old content could be appealing to both new and old players.
Quality drops, much less future proof, developers constricted by outdated scripting system, and lack of NPC server limits what can be done.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:02 PM
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Quality drops, much less future proof, developers constricted by outdated scripting system, and lack of NPC server limits what can be done.
The quality of the old content is much better than the current in my opinion. It would take years of development to reach its level.
I assume developers who care for the server would be able to deal with it once it's done. The server doesn't need overly advanced scripting for classic gameplay.

Also, the lack of an NPC server would make it much easier for regular players to submit their personal content (such as playerhouses).
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:03 PM
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The quality of the old content is much better than the current in my opinion. It would take years of development to reach its level.
I assume developers who care for the server would be able to deal with it once it's done. The server doesn't need overly advanced scripting for classic gameplay.

Also, the lack of an NPC server would make it much easier for regular players to submit their personal content (such as playerhouses).
What old content?
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:13 PM
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What old content?
Both versions (old main and Tyhm period) are better than the current revision (and the direction it's heading).
I personally prefer the pre-heras levels, though I like some of Tyhm's additions.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:14 PM
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I personally prefer the pre-heras levels, though I like some of Tyhm's additions.
Though you posted exactly the same thing in his era? I think you're either scared of change or scared of not being able to recreate memories that are not going to come back anyway.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:23 PM
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there's no argument you can make to say classic is going in the right direction. tyhm era added content. current classic has less than pre-tyhm.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:25 PM
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Though you posted exactly the same thing in his era? I think you're either scared of change or scared of not being able to recreate memories that are not going to come back anyway.
I'm not scared of change, and I have no intention of recreating old memories.
I merely believe that the old version was superior for various reasons.

I have no problem with new content, but I believe it should be added in addition to the old, instead of replacing it.
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