Community Scripting Project

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by The_Kez

@Inverness: No one has to get classic. Servers that are already classic will benefit from using your scripts without knowing anything about how they work, and do it without your permission.

If they benefit from it and bring more people to Graal then good for them. And then the globals would love me because I'm helping bring more people to Graal for them to rule over with an iron fist.

And there isn't a classic server that exists now that could use my scripts without having to modify them for the server. Which means they would have to learn how the script works and modify it.

[The_Kez]

Originally Posted by Inverness

If they benefit from it and bring more people to Graal then good for them. And then the globals would love me because I'm helping bring more people to Graal for them to rule over with an iron fist.

And there isn't a classic server that exists now that could use my scripts without having to modify them for the server. Which means they would have to learn how the script works and modify it.

At your first point: That is not to say everyone is competing for the love of global admins.

At your second point: That is not to say other servers don't have scripts which are easily usable simply by copy/paste.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by The_Kez

At your first point: That is not to say everyone is competing for the love of global admins.

I'm not either, that was a joke. Did you think otherwise?

Originally Posted by The_Kez

At your second point: That is not to say other servers don't have scripts which are easily usable simply by copy/paste.

If the script can work with a simple copy/paste then its probably something that should be open source anyways.

[LoneAngelIbesu]

If all scripts on all servers are open source, then they wouldn't need to modify anything to get a custom system working.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

If all scripts on all servers are open source, then they wouldn't need to modify anything to get a custom system working.

They would if they wanted their server to be unique enough to go classic.

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

If all scripts on all servers are open source, then they wouldn't need to modify anything to get a custom system working.

Making playerworld creation easier is a good thing.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Loriel

Making playerworld creation easier is a good thing.

Sure, but the current problem is that there are too many servers.

As I've been trying to say, servers that are extremely organized and have a dev team before even starting the server should not have to suffer because someone else decides to make a server with no dev team and expects others to make it for them.

Anyone should be allowed to have their own server, but they can't expect that it will go anywhere unless they can get a dev team. It's always good to have your server planned out before buying the server.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

As I've been trying to say, servers that are extremely organized and have a dev team before even starting the server should not have to suffer because someone else decides to make a server with no dev team and expects others to make it for them.

How would they suffer?

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Rufus

How would they suffer?

Players would go to the other server, and the original server would have less players.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Players would go to the other server, and the original server would have less players.

You would expect that an extremely organized server, with an abundance of development staff would always have a major advantage over a server with no organization or staff, right?

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Sure, but the current problem is that there are too many servers.

That is not really a problem. The problem is that all of them suck.

All scripts being available to everyone else does not mean that you get away without development teams. That is a pretty silly conclusion.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Rufus

You would expect that an extremely organized server, with an abundance of development staff would always have a major advantage over a server with no organization or staff, right?

Yes, but that doesn't mean they need the competition of their own content on another server.

Originally Posted by Loriel

That is not really a problem. The problem is that all of them suck.

All scripts being available to everyone else does not mean that you get away without development teams. That is a pretty silly conclusion.

A good server wouldn't, but some servers would just copy and paste exactly from a server.

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

A good server wouldn't, but some servers would just copy and paste exactly from a server.

It is not going to hurt anyone if they do that.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Loriel

It is not going to hurt anyone if they do that.

Yes it will, it will hurt the original server.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Yes, but that doesn't mean they need the competition of their own content on another server.

You're assuming that servers reusing scripts would be carbon copies of the servers that the scripts are from, and while that might be true in some cases, that is not why it is being suggested. Servers which copy Era for example are scripting the same systems, in the exact same way, but they're never going to be accepted into the mainstream server list as they lack originality, thus not creating much competition at all. What it does create is a push for creativity and originality, and in the majority of servers and on Graal as a whole this is very much needed.

If a server like Graal2001 for instance wanted to use the car script Era has for their Go-Karts event, I do not see how this is going to hurt Era at all, because borrowing or not the Karts are going to be scripted. Time is saved, and it would not be creating competition from Era's own content, because it is not Era's content.