Make it non-gold

[Ravenblade1979]

Actually Tig I did the QFT because most parents don't even realize that sms could be used for this. I mean they would find out when they got the bill but by then its too late and the gelats are already spent.

@James: I'm 30 and my parents live over 300 miles away. How am I spoiled?

[James]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Actually Tig I did the QFT because most parents don't even realize that sms could be used for this. I mean they would find out when they got the bill but by then its too late and the gelats are already spent.

@James: I'm 30 and my parents live over 300 miles away. How am I spoiled?

Again, I don't care how old you are or how far your parents live away from you. Why are you quoting a statement for truth when it's not the truth? Circumstances vary, some parents may care, but a lot of kids would be punished. I've already said this.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by Crimson2005

If they make it cheaper then raise the prices again, won't the playercount decline and end up eventually in a situation like it's in now? If I was paying for a game annually for £20, and they raised it to £40 when I don't think it's worth £40 then I would leave and I imagine quite a few others would too. This is why people aren't paying now as the prices have went up for some people.

The amount of content (good and bad) might increase due to more players (and bring in more), and more players will raise chances of them knowing how to model 3D objects, etc.
You get the idea, it might, or might not, raise the amount of good content coming in. That's why they'd increase the price a bit at a time to see what happens.

[MiniOne]

Lets not make it non gold instead lets give new players a gold trial period or each new computer that signs up a free gold period for them to test out the servers and stuff and if they enjoy it they can subscribe if not then they can stay trials

Originally Posted by James

Again, I don't care how old you are or how far your parents live away from you. Why are you quoting a statement for truth when it's not the truth? Circumstances vary, some parents may care, but a lot of kids would be punished. I've already said this.

Agreed. Even though i still live with my parents, p.s. am only 15
anyway ya i live with my parents and i know they'd be angry if i stole from them thats why the sms system is really idiotic because it could result in a dedication in players, due to parents blocking them off from the game with firewalls or etc

[DustyPorViva]

lol @ people who say they're happy with the 20 or so tops players that play on GK. A close-knit community is no excuse to not try to expand the playerbase. Sorry, but you can keep your close-knit community even if there are 100 people.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by Crimson2005

If they make it cheaper then raise the prices again, won't the playercount decline and end up eventually in a situation like it's in now? If I was paying for a game annually for £20, and they raised it to £40 when I don't think it's worth £40 then I would leave and I imagine quite a few others would too. This is why people aren't paying now as the prices have went up for some people.

I didn't say they lower the price and immediately shoot it back up when the playercount picks up.
What i'm saying is the price gets lowered, stays that way for a long period of time, when the player count is substantially high, a gradual (def not +£20) increase in price like an extra £1.50 each time they bump it up (for good reason) and i feel the max Graal sub should even be is £25-£30 PA. It shouldn't come close to a years WoW actually.

What graal did is raise the cost of a pretty poor product... Graal is great but again, compare it to wow and others. In almost all cases, sales (players:customers) decrease when costs rise.

[MiniOne]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

I didn't say they lower the price and immediately shoot it back up when the playercount picks up.
What i'm saying is the price gets lowered, stays that way for a long period of time, when the player count is substantially high, a gradual (def not +£20) increase in price like an extra £1.50 each time they bump it up (for good reason) and i feel the max Graal sub should even be is £25-£30 PA. It shouldn't come close to a years WoW actually.

What graal did is raise the cost of a pretty poor product... Graal is great but again, compare it to wow and others. In almost all cases, sales (players:customers) decrease when costs rise.

First you need to get the product into the market before sales increase, i don't believe graal fails at getting subs because of the cost more because of the lack of advertisement, because as you can see we don't even actually have that many trials running around, so i recommend getting graal out there, where people can find so that the product spreads and generally a well marketed product gets quite a bit of business but that's just my opinion, also give specials to long time users, which will make them stay a little longer if you start reducing sub prices with each time they resub.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

lol @ people who say they're happy with the 20 or so tops players that play on GK. A close-knit community is no excuse to not try to expand the playerbase. Sorry, but you can keep your close-knit community even if there are 100 people.

Doing our best to justify our low playercount. Mega denial.

[Ravenblade1979]

Originally Posted by James

Again, I don't care how old you are or how far your parents live away from you. Why are you quoting a statement for truth when it's not the truth? Circumstances vary, some parents may care, but a lot of kids would be punished. I've already said this.

What you see as truth and what I see as truth are quite different. You need to keep this in mind. I know the kids would be punished but only after the fact .

There is still the fact that they would actually do it. Although thankfully these days where i live you can get your kids a pre-paid credit card in which they can only spend whats loaded onto it.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

First you need to get the product into the market before sales increase, i don't believe graal fails at getting subs because of the cost more because of the lack of advertisement, because as you can see we don't even actually have that many trials running around, so i recommend getting graal out there, where people can find so that the product spreads and generally a well marketed product gets quite a bit of business but that's just my opinion, also give specials to long time users, which will make them stay a little longer if you start reducing sub prices with each time they resub.

Already said graal needs to be advertised and marketed well.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Already said graal needs to be advertised and marketed well.

Needs to be presentable before that.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Needs to be presentable before that.

Indeed. I think both the game and the community need some attention.

[Switch]

This topic should really be moved to a more appropriate section xD turned into waaaay more than GK.

Originally Posted by Rufus

Needs to be presentable before that.

Which is why Stefan needs to get his butt back on Graal.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Switch

This topic should really be moved to a more appropriate section xD turned into waaaay more than GK.


Which is why Stefan needs to get his butt back on Graal.

what're you talking abouttttt? he logs on, tells people that he's busy, and logs off!

[Dark_Zeratul101]

I can make up a whole list of what's wrong with GK and how to fix it, but I don't feel like doing it. If anyone's interested let me know and I might consider it.

If GK actually gets revived then I'll be Jesus

Making it non-gold wouldn't really solve the problem in the long run.