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[Imperialistic]

I'm astonished Stefan. I can at least say that we appreciate the much needed response that we have been waiting on for ~6 years. All of us are not against GraalOnline as it may seem, we are here to help you. I don't see why you can't discuss with us what you would like to see within the 'cash shops'. Because if there is anything we can do to speed up the process, most developers will take it into their own hands with your approval of course.

[NicoX]

Stefan, please tell us a list what you need for removing Observer Mode and we will just do it ? That horrible thing has to go. Valikorlia for example would work great when its moved to F2P because ALOT of people are RPing on the Internet, but at the same time they wouldnt pay for Graal when they can pay for other Games which has more to offer.
So please, give us the requirements and we will work on them. unixmad/you basically have nothing to lose.

[ajf10209]

Can Val maybe have access to the dev server that was paid for too?

[NicoX]

Originally Posted by ajf10209

Can Val maybe have access to the dev server that was paid for too?

Oh yes I forgot, we paid for a Dev Server and still waiting for 2 months now for enabling it to Classic Status. I mean we lost 2 months of Development time.

If you finally find time for some Graal PC issues, please enable the Server dev_ZazenP2P ...

[Imperialistic]

Originally Posted by NicoX

Oh yes I forgot, we paid for a Dev Server and still waiting for 2 months now for enabling it to Classic Status. I mean we lost 2 months of Development time.

If you finally find time for some Graal PC issues, please enable the Server dev_ZazenP2P ...

I think this is something that should be emailed to him, this is totally off-topic.

[NicoX]

Originally Posted by Imperialistic

I think this is something that should be emailed to him, this is totally off-topic.

Well its horrible when the PWAs says they will forward it to him and when Stefan ignores most of the emails and PMs. We already did several times x-x

[zephirot]

man if i were stefan, my will to read the last couple pages would be non-existent.

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by zephirot

man if i were stefan, my will to read the last couple pages would be non-existent.

Like I stated, I highly doubt that you can imply anyone of us to be anti graal, or against the game. The opposite, I would like to play a more lively game again, with the chance to offer our content to even more people.

[dude2020]

v5 did kill it, but even then it had a small active community.
OFFTOPIC SHALL REIGN SUPREME
If Stefan stays true to his word, then we'll see it D:

[ffcmike]

Yesterday I noticed an observer mode bug which I was previously unaware of.
If you're using V5 and the observer and/or yourself have UDP enabled, and they follow your player on their screen, they do not appear invisible on your screen, and their character appears to be stuck on top of your character as you move around, which can be pretty annoying.

On the subject of it, another bug I've not mentioned before is that when using V6, an observer's gani will remain frozen on the same frame.
Lets say a trial enters observer mode in the middle of slashing, you'd see them stuck on the sword gani. Having a clientside hit detection which scans the gani of other players to detect attacks, it is actually possible to be hurt by an observer, and the variable player.isobserver doesn't seem to be synced to other players clients. Not sure if this is an issue with default systems.

It's also annoying when observer mode coincides with clientside <-> serverside triggers.

[ffcmike]

So about 2 and a half weeks ago I emailed Stefan + Unix for the 2nd time (first time was ignored again) a German, French and English copy of Classic's micro-transaction plans.
Incredibly, I got a response just 2 minutes later. My astonishment quickly turned into disappointment however, when I read the reply of:

Stefan: Can't you just do it in English, I feel stupid when receiving such mails.

The reason this is funny is not because the email did happen to include the original English copy, but because it implies it would have been read and/or replied to.

Stefan, if there is anything you should feel stupid about, it is the fact that you think of yourself as both a game designer and a business man, while utterly failing to even acknowledge the massive flaws, as well as the proposed solutions or requests for clarification, concerning the cancer you call observer mode.
Either you are ignorant of just how detrimental to gameplay observer mode is, or you are knowingly neglecting an issue which is bad for PC Graal's business.

[ffcmike]

Alright Stefan now that you're back from your vacation I thought I'd bump this.

Originally Posted by ffcmike

So about 2 and a half weeks ago I emailed Stefan + Unix for the 2nd time (first time was ignored again) a German, French and English copy of Classic's micro-transaction plans.
Incredibly, I got a response just 2 minutes later. My astonishment quickly turned into disappointment however, when I read the reply of:

The reason this is funny is not because the email did happen to include the original English copy, but because it implies it would have been read and/or replied to.

Stefan, if there is anything you should feel stupid about, it is the fact that you think of yourself as both a game designer and a business man, while utterly failing to even acknowledge the massive flaws, as well as the proposed solutions or requests for clarification, concerning the cancer you call observer mode.
Either you are ignorant of just how detrimental to gameplay observer mode is, or you are knowingly neglecting an issue which is bad for PC Graal's business.

And I also thought I'd show the response you shockingly managed to muster to my latest email:

Stefan: you mean helping with Gelat items and getting rid of observer mode, or more about future developements?

Seems you were either taking the piss or have a ridiculously short memory.

We have a production-ready server of a particularly high quality imminently awaiting going live, which is perfectly capable of supporting a micro-transaction scheme, has a stable and experienced staff team, and has a high level of scripted security and monitoring. Yet the level of response I have received from you over the last 10 months, regarding the planning and preparation we have put so much effort towards has been utterly pathetic.

I get the fact iPhone is your golden goose and so PC Graal is a low priority, but it would not exist if not for the efforts of countless volunteer developers past and present, yet you still take take take, and never give back, not unless it benefits you directly. How many years were developers asking for you to implement a method to determine the killer with default hit detection?
You ignored these requests for all those years, right up until you yourself required it. I bet if someone offered a port of Graal that allowed a 1:1 transition of servers, a fair subscription policy, and no legal consequences, the vast majority of developers would jump ship.

I haven't even been demanding that you approve such plans, merely that you at least acknowledge them and give a decent response, basically show that you actually give a damn about this game. While I am extremely disappointed with the level of response, the one saving grace is that you do not deserve to be receiving any additional revenue from PC Graal.

[oo_jazz_oo]

Originally Posted by Hezzy002

iClassic has zero talent on its staff team. iEra's close behind. Half of the people developing for those servers didn't even know that pixel art, programming existed until they started playing on the iPhone servers. It's basically a huge amount of mediocre developers *****footing their way into more content. The way people "script" on the iPhone is horrible; I've seen it. They just look at tons of other scripts and piece them together in random ways until they get something remotely close to what they want. It's pathetic and horrible.

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

scripting for iPhone is incredibly limited unlike pc. You have to use practically no loops or timeouts because of how slow the iDevices are. There are so few things you can do so that explains why most the items are really simple. On pc you can script rather carelessly and stuff will still work smoothly since pcs have generally much faster cpus. On iPhone you have to make a lot of optimizations so you don't lag.

You know, I rarely post on these forums any more, but I just gotta say how wrong you are...you obviously have no clue what you're talking about. At all.

I am part of iClassics staff team, and to say I have no talent is rather insulting. Or to say that Jerret has no talent. Or to say anyone else for that matter.

And scripting on the iPhone is limited, but not in the ways you have said.
If you can script efficiently and know what you're doing, its not hard. Its identical to scripting on PC.
So...before you go off on the iClassic staff or development, educate yourself.

[fowlplay4]

why did u send him the same document in three different languages

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

why did u send him the same document in three different languages

To minimise potential misunderstanding, which when you consider Stephane's approval is required, and him traditionally not being too comfortable with English, was worth a try.