Graal v6 Open Beta

[jkldogg]

Originally Posted by Sky

Works great for me on windows 7 64 bit.

These are such small things though. I'm pretty sure I will continue using the new client because of non-lag issues. :P

Agree.

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by salesman

The message means your client is running faster than it should be (it's designed to detect people using programs like !xSpeed).

It took 9.615 seconds to trigger your client, run a 10 second timer, and send the results back to the server. Logically, this process should take >10 seconds, but false-positives do happen because timers are never 100% precise.

So unless for some reason 10 second timers are finishing way before 10 seconds with v6, I doubt this is a bug with the client. Era staff need to take a look at logs to see if it was just a one time thing, or if you were frequently beating the 10 seconds.

Yeah I did the logs and only once did it do this, I did try to explain but I don't think Chris understands

[Masa]

I do understand, but there has to be some explanation.
Dead serious, I wasn't doing anything other than carrying donuts; no third-party program was involved. I'm kind of at a catch-22, here, because it seems there is no way out of it, other than considering the improbable.

I mean c'mon, I have no reason at all to speed up the "sprinkle donut" process.
Drop logs of the time I picked up the donuts would coincide with the ToRC flag, yes?
That's all I got, man.

Since it did only happen on v6, I figured it was an issue with the client.
If the detector just happened to "slip-up", I guess I'm just up the creek with no paddle.

[Admins]

Normally speed checks should not auto-ban, only be used when someone is reported as speed-hacker to see if it can also be techincally be proven.

[Crono]

font is still an issue (hard to read, much worse than v5...why?), forcing people to use ingame playerlist is annoying (vast majority of people use external), and there are still the small bugs like windows opening on your mouse x,y, Graal not starting fully stretched out, etc.

Originally Posted by Luda

I wonder if any of these suggestions/complaints will actually be listened to.

you have to get everyone to constantly repeat it, stefan did fix a lot of stuff in the other thread. maybe skyld will compile a list since he has a lot of influence ^_^?

[xAndrewx]

When changing theme and closing graal and re-opening, the playerlists reverts back to the default blue

[MrDumbledore]

Originally Posted by Masa

I have reason to believe that there is a problem with the speed system sending false-positives regarding speedhacking to RC.

I just got jailed for 30 days on Era for attempting to carry 2.9k plain donuts to be sprinkled.
Apparently, it flagged that I was trying to hack my speed and given my jail/ban record, it isn't easy to prove that I didn't do it.

Basically I just picked up a bunch of donuts, decreasing my walkspeed from about 1.08 to 0.33. I attempted to walk toward a table to "sprinkle" the donuts. Something triggered ToRC saying I was hacking my speed.
"Masa (Masa) has been caught hacking his/her speed [delta: 9.615432977]"

Should a fix be found, make it a priority to unjail me.

You are correct, this is a false-positive which has been reported to Stefan (and which he's acknowledged).

On Mac (and possibly Linux), when you resize the client it increases the FPS so the interface elements move smoothly rather than moving jaggedly since they move at a slower FPS than the OS. This causes it to catch the increased FPS and call you a speed hacker. Point the Era staff to the post below (or this one) and I'm sure they'll unban you.

Originally Posted by cbk1994

When you resize the Graal window, Graal appears to run at a higher frame rate in order to create smooth resizing with GUI controls (using vertSizing and such). As a result, scheduleEvent and possibly other time commands run faster than Graal's 20 FPS.

I was caught by Era's speed hacking protection, which involves the server sending a message to the client, the client waiting 10 seconds (scheduleevent), and the client then returning the message. If the time is significantly less than 10 seconds, it's considered to be a speed hacker.

Skyld can also confirm with the Era staff as he's tested it with Chris.

e: I contacted Era staff and they've unbanned you.

[jkldogg]

Originally Posted by Crono

font is still an issue (hard to read, much worse than v5...why?), forcing people to use ingame playerlist is annoying (vast majority of people use external), and there are still the small bugs like windows opening on your mouse x,y, Graal not starting fully stretched out, etc.



you have to get everyone to constantly repeat it, stefan did fix a lot of stuff in the other thread. maybe skyld will compile a list since he has a lot of influence ^_^?

ya font and windows opening on x,y is EXTREMELY annoying.

[Mark Sir Link]

wish playerlist would save size/location so I don't have to move it every time I log in.

[Switch]

Getting on for this.

[knightfire35]

A few things I've noticed that happened to me:
-The key to open options no longer works, so I had go through the start button
-Can't change font
-Not a huge fan of the new playerlist

Besides those, it seems to be running smoothly.

[jkldogg]

On Era when you use the player list and view history my character says the account name of the person in game that i'm viewing history.

If that makes any sense.

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by Crono

forcing people to use ingame playerlist is annoying (vast majority of people use external)

It is 'external'. If there's functionality within the old external playerlist that the new one lacks, then that functionality should be introduced to the new external playerlist. There's no reason to keep two different kinds, especially now that the new playerlist, by default, uses external windows.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

It is 'external'. If there's functionality within the old external playerlist that the new one lacks, then that functionality should be introduced to the new external playerlist. There's no reason to keep two different kinds, especially now that the new playerlist, by default, uses external windows.

You know what I mean by "external" (i.e the old one) and there's an obvious reason why most people prefer to use it over the "internal" one. You seem to be one of the few who don't get it, which isn't a surprise really because you don't even play Graal.

[Admins]

Well is there any other reason except the 'window opens at mouse' why you prefer the old playerlist over the new one? Both are docking, show player info when hovering over a name, support multiple selections etc.