Stat changes/updates.

[Iscariot_p2p]

Hey, I love mangan blade. I think it looks great. I do wish that is was flipped so it didnt look like you were holding is backward. Only problem is it doesnt match anything since its really hard to do a yellow look.

Though "I" do like the graphic most people think its ugly.

[Cubes]

thats like saying give hammerouge +2 con because there is only 2

[Noobie8205]

Originally Posted by shrimps

I'm going to suggest Sash of Clarity to have +1 magic.

Current: (Int+1)(Cha+1)(Pow+2)

Revised 1: (Int+1)(Pow+2)(Magic+1)

It's a caster belt and It shouldn't be mandatory to get regen from only rings and hats, and allow mix and match. Plus even if you have Magic+7 only +2 of the magic is going to do any difference.

Please... I mean really putting charm on any item is about the dumbest thing possible.. Since all you ever need is the scroll of shopping.. wtf is charm going to do for my cast? make it talk it's way into hitting someone?

Another good example...

Elvens (+3 Speed)(Stealth) How useless.. another filler stat that does nothing.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Noobie8205

Elvens (+3 Speed)(Stealth) How useless.. another filler stat that does nothing.

Monsters don't aggro from as close if you have Stealth. (I think.)

But yeah, pretty useless. Kinda cool from a roleplaying standpoint if you could just sneak by monsters.

[kia345]

Wood bracers could use a buff.

Current: luck +1

There's no ac, no resistances, nothing. They're only good for blessing. Slap on some ac. Or give them dex or wis or something. With just one luck, they're pretty useless, might as well be craftable with that.

Revised: luck +1, ac +1 (or some other stat modifier)

[Googi]

Originally Posted by kia345

There's no ac, no resistances, nothing. They're only good for blessing. Slap on some ac. Or give them dex or wis or something. With just one luck, they're pretty useless, might as well be craftable with that.

Wood bracers are "supposed" to be inferior to bronze, gold and ice bracers, since they cost fewer ECs to make (back in the day).

[Iscariot_p2p]

Ya I would say wood bracers dont really need a change. They serve their purpose. That is why they are cheap.

and as far at the mangan goes CUBES. Im not saying it should get the stats because there are only two. Im saying its a cool old relic that deserves better stats and maybe a small rerelease for that matter afterward. The reason I mentioned there only being 2 is that if the stats were upgraded nobody would care since they arent really in activity unlike when a bunch of phoenix helms were release and all previous owners were pissed because the value dropped off.

Also Klay. If you read the quote it says cha+1 for current and then he took it off lol He isnt adding it he is getting rid of it

[Mousymee]

Originally Posted by Iscariot_p2p

Also Klay. If you read the quote it says cha+1 for current and then he took it off lol He isnt adding it he is getting rid of it

His please was for the change Aj mentioned, as in yes please make that change yadig

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Googi

Wood bracers are "supposed" to be inferior to bronze, gold and ice bracers, since they cost fewer ECs to make (back in the day).

That works then

Originally Posted by Iscariot_p2p

More on Mangan

There's several other useless swords like that, Golden Kryss, Diamond Force, Ruby Blade, Blood Sabre.

[MajinDragon]

Phoenix Helmet
Current: speed+1 ac+2
Revised: Str-1 Con+2 speed+1 ac+1 resist fire+15
Reason: All agreed it's pretty crappy, ugly w/o the shield to somehow justify why you're wearing it. Boost not just because it's ugly, but because the phoenix set has no real relavance to the name other than speed... the stats on the helm however, are pretty crappy since the common cowboy hat has better stats... Phoenix's are usually associated with rebirth and therefore, prolonged life, hence Con+2, and fire resist to simply add more of a phoenix theme. Having con+2 would switch things up quit a bit though... So added Str-1 to soften it up, otherwise we'd be making an elite item out of nothing.

Orange Belt of Speed
Current: speed+1 armour+8 resist magic+5
Revised: speed+3 armor+8 resist magic+5
Reason: Not so speedy when Glok and BoCH give more of a speed boost...

Shield of the Sun
Current: Wis+1 ac+2 resist electricity+10
Revised: Wis+1 Pow+1 ac+2 resist fire+10/20

Justification: Pretty rare, the refference to sun should give it a fire element, don't see why it was chosen to have electricity resist instead. Also, the sun is associated with power i guess, revised stats don't seem too OP'd.

Wizard hat (purple)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist magic+25 attuned:mind
Rename: Purple Wizard Hat
Reason: Magic hats are far too generic, all the same yet there are raritys, obvious differences and room for a bit of diversity. This is the reason for all suggestions following. Can allow any player to recover their old sorcerers hat from the guy who teaches you magic, even oldbies. If these changes were implimented, a Sorcerer's hat would give the basic magic+1 ac+1 and there'd be no worries.

Wizard hat (red)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist fire+25 attuned:fire
Rename: Red Wizard Hat
Reason: -

White Wizard Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised magic+1 ac+1 resist holyword+25 attuned:healing,self
Reason: -

Black Wizard Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist death+25 attuned:wounding,death
Reason: -

Wizard Hat (green)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist poison+25
Rename: Green Wizard Hat
Reason: - *unsure if it's already named that.

Golden Wizard Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: luck+2 magic+2 ac+1 attuned: mind
Reason -

White Star Wizard Hat
Current: magic+2 ac+1
Revised: Wis+2 magic+2 ac+1 resist holyword+30 attuned:healing,self
Regfx: It's ugly
Reason -

Wizard Hat (black star)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: Pow+1 magic+2 ac+1 resist death+30 attuned:wounding,death
Rename: Black Star Wizard Hat
Reason: -

Witch Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: Int+2 Cha-1 magic+2 ac+1 resist magic+40
Reason: -

[kia345]

Me and Majin were throwing this around: KJ and ZSoH are two of the only shields made of adamant on the server. When you think of an adamant shield, you think of pretty much lugging around a heavily enchanted wall the deflects PAIN. In reality, both of these shields have a lousy ac coupled with a single, okay stat. Dustari on the other hand has a nice Str+1 and Speed+1, and CP has Str +1 and +2 ac, letting you block more hits, and land more of your own. ZSoH has Wis and Pow, and that's it, which is nice for being a stationary mage (who somehow needs to avoid taking physical damage), and KJ has +1 Con and +1 ac, which really just lets you get hit one more time as opposed to avoiding more hits.

Kurenai Joukai Shield
Current: Con +1, ac +1
Revised: Con +1, ac +2 or 3

Zormite Shield of Honor
Current: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +1
Revised: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +2 or 3

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by kia345

Me and Majin were throwing this around: KJ and ZSoH are two of the only shields made of adamant on the server. When you think of an adamant shield, you think of pretty much lugging around a heavily enchanted wall the deflects PAIN. In reality, both of these shields have a lousy ac coupled with a single, okay stat. Dustari on the other hand has a nice Str+1 and Speed+1, and CP has Str +1 and +2 ac, letting you block more hits, and land more of your own. ZSoH has Wis and Pow, and that's it, which is nice for being a stationary mage (who somehow needs to avoid taking physical damage), and KJ has +1 Con and +1 ac, which really just lets you get hit one more time as opposed to avoiding more hits.

Kurenai Joukai Shield
Current: Con +1, ac +1
Revised: Con +1, ac +2 or 3

Zormite Shield of Honor
Current: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +1
Revised: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +2 or 3

I'd say ac +3 on both considering pirate shield has ac+2 and is made of metal.

[Vincent3313]

Red Belt of Damage?
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
-Considering I got this off Graal Lib, I'm not sure if it's up to date.
I've never seen anyone with this, so I'm sure it's somewhat rare. Why such crappy stats? If they went out of there way to put the Damage part of it, shouldn't they have much more then that? It should have at least 3 damage. And possibly a little more fire resistance?

Red Belt of Damage
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
Revised: Dam+3, Ac+1, Resist Fire + 15

[Craigus]

Originally Posted by Vincent3313

Red Belt of Damage?
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
-Considering I got this off Graal Lib, I'm not sure if it's up to date.
I've never seen anyone with this, so I'm sure it's somewhat rare. Why such crappy stats? If they went out of there way to put the Damage part of it, shouldn't they have much more then that? It should have at least 3 damage. And possibly a little more fire resistance?

Red Belt of Damage
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
Revised: Dam+3, Ac+1, Resist Fire + 15

I think i have a few they were free easter belts i have black belt of weapons orange belt of speed and blue belt of armour to, something along those lines

[BigBear3]

Green Sahuagin Coat
Current stats: none

Revised Stats: Cha+30

I mean come on.. Look at it.