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Old 07-26-2008, 02:32 AM
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Congratulations on being a selfish ****. Graal is short enough on good scripters that they being reclusive and wishing each other to fail is not going to make anyone happy.
The problem is there are too many servers, not too few scripters, in my opinion.

If someone wants to create their own playerworld instead of helping someone else, that's fine. That doesn't mean we should make their server for them.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:35 AM
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The problem is there are too many servers, not too few scripters, in my opinion.

If someone wants to create their own playerworld instead of helping someone else, that's fine. That doesn't mean we should make their server for them.
Yes, it does mean that the scripters "should" write the scripts that will help out the maximum number of people.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:36 AM
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I might be gravely mistaken, but isn't (wasn't?) it possible? I remember someone making an external... something. My memory fails horribly at times...
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:40 AM
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I might be gravely mistaken, but isn't (wasn't?) it possible? I remember someone making an external... something. My memory fails horribly at times...
Well, it is somewhat possible, but you are not going to be able to send dbus messages or anything without some major hacking.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:41 AM
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How about you all just make your own server together (NOT SEPARATE, TOGETHER!)
And with a good idea it could actually go somewhere >.>
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:44 AM
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How about you all just make your own server together (NOT SEPARATE, TOGETHER!)
And with a good idea it could actually go somewhere >.>
Because I don't have a gold account, and I'm not shoveling out money for one when I have RC access and free reign of the NPC-Server on Valikorlia...
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Old 07-26-2008, 03:06 AM
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Because I don't have a gold account, and I'm not shoveling out money for one when I have RC access and free reign of the NPC-Server on Valikorlia...
sounds fun then!
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Old 07-26-2008, 04:07 AM
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With everyone contributing, it would be open source (all on the forums) for all servers to use. It won't be things that people will want for server content (movement systems, etc), but they will be useful as utilities and learning tools.
It would be an interesting way to improve the functionality of graal, without waiting for a new version.
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Old 07-26-2008, 05:01 AM
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I want a baddy script so I don't have to try to make it myself.
I don't want to reinvent the wheel.

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You know as well as any other that if you provide a newbie scripter with completed code, they aren't going to bother to learn what the code does.
They'll learn their lesson when it's time to maintain the code and they realize that they can't fix anything.

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I wanted to do that with Mythic, I even had a thread with all scripts in it. But, I killed that idea when graal.net crashed and took them all with it. I might see myself doing it again in the future, undecided at this point.
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Old 07-26-2008, 05:15 AM
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I don't want to reinvent the wheel.
But, in the case of baddies, Graal changed the roads. We need a new wheel.
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Yes, it does mean that the scripters "should" write the scripts that will help out the maximum number of people.
No, it doesn't. I choose to work on Vesporia, and that is the server I want to make scripts for. You fail to see the whole point of server competition; this is, in part, what makes developing fun. To know that you have a better server than others (or that you are creating one which will be better than others).

People who start their own servers should know that they need scripters.

I'm fine with people using scripts in the code gallery, or other scripts that have been released.
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:38 PM
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No, it doesn't. I choose to work on Vesporia, and that is the server I want to make scripts for. You fail to see the whole point of server competition; this is, in part, what makes developing fun. To know that you have a better server than others (or that you are creating one which will be better than others).
Most hobbyist programmers code for the sake of coding rather than for any real or perceived gain from having a better product than someone else.

Young teenagers are exempt from this, of course: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=80426
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Old 07-26-2008, 05:04 PM
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^ The exact reason why entire servers shouldn't be made open-source.
Baddies are typically very complex scripts and few have the ability to make them. It would benefit Graal as a whole if there was an open-source modular baddie script that servers could use and customize to fit their server.

If I ever get around to making a baddie it will most definitely be open source.
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Most hobbyist programmers code for the sake of coding rather than for any real or perceived gain from having a better product than someone else.
I don't code for the sake of coding, I code to create an awesome server.
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:31 PM
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