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Old 03-14-2008, 01:52 AM
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:45 AM
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Yes, but wasn't this the guy that apologized to us on his own account?
I know him thoroughly, and he is completely ridden of any Stormfront stuff.
And drugs. Dude even I did some space cake in my life!
Don't get me wrong. I don't care what drugs anyone does. That's their personal business (and even if they wish to make it public, I won't hold it against them). But in this case, I think he said the drugs were (at least partially) responsible for the whole Stormfront crap.

And this is totally different from the whole Hell Raven and Tigarius situation (see Tig's app for that discussion) where they apparently did things that they can apologize or be forgiven for. It's easy to apologize for and forgive specific actions, but you can't really apologize for someone's belief-system (which is what racism and white supremacy are; ideas, beliefs...)
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:25 AM
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:43 PM
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But in this case, I think he said the drugs were (at least partially) responsible for the whole Stormfront crap.
Drugs mess with your mind, you don't even need a class to understand anyone can blame anything on a drug they took and it would be perfectly reasonable.
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:47 PM
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Drugs mess with your mind, you don't even need a class to understand anyone can blame anything on a drug they took and it would be perfectly reasonable.
Drugs are mind altering and can mess up your decision making process, but they don't effect your personal opinion.
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:07 PM
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Drugs are mind altering and can mess up your decision making process, but they don't effect your personal opinion.
Um... I'm sure a person's opinion of diving off a 30 foot cliff while high and while NOT high vary greatly.
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:36 PM
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anyone can blame anything on a drug they took and it would be perfectly reasonable.
I can't.
I honestly know I'd be unreasonable (and telling a lie) for doing so.

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Drugs are mind altering and can mess up your decision making process, but they don't effect your personal opinion.
QFT (cause itz wut all da kewl kids due)

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Um... I'm sure a person's opinion of diving off a 30 foot cliff while high and while NOT high vary greatly.
That's a decision-making process.
Know what golden rule we all forgot? Maybe because nobody says it anymore:

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Also, it doesn't vary as much as you're implying. Being "high" wouldn't make me suddenly decide to jump off a 30-foot cliff. It MAY help someone who already wishes to commit such an act...
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Old 03-14-2008, 11:09 PM
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Old 03-15-2008, 01:53 AM
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:04 PM
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Drugs are mind altering and can mess up your decision making process, but they don't effect your personal opinion.
Actually, it's possible for your opinions to be manipulated whilst on them. I don't think it's anyones place to bring up my rocky past. I'm still suffering, personally and socially because of what happened.

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Don't get me wrong. I don't care what drugs anyone does. That's their personal business (and even if they wish to make it public, I won't hold it against them). But in this case, I think he said the drugs were (at least partially) responsible for the whole Stormfront crap.

And this is totally different from the whole Hell Raven and Tigarius situation (see Tig's app for that discussion) where they apparently did things that they can apologize or be forgiven for. It's easy to apologize for and forgive specific actions, but you can't really apologize for someone's belief-system (which is what racism and white supremacy are; ideas, beliefs...)
I'm sorry you can't find it hard to forgive me for what happened in a very fragile part of my life. Bowie once said "Britain's ready for a fascist regime" and he's redeemed himself, and it's known he was under the influence of cocaine. Much like I was, I've tried to redeem myself, it's just people like you who can't forgive me. I've changed, I've worked with racially different folk. I know what racism is like.

I never made any racist comments, and I never personally attacked anyone. You can't pin my past on me because that past, is well, over with and I'm a different person now. If you can't see that, you're a fool.
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