Levels Editor?

[atomuskus]

I use it anyways since the level editor won't work for me.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Loriel

Personally I was kind of hoping that someone else would jump on the project. You can pretty much edit levels at this point, so I am not very motivated to tack on random features.

I found it was lacking in some areas to the point I couldn't use it. Also the fact that it didn't have layer support meant it didn't offer enough for me to move over from the current editor.

Mainly it had problems saving options/tile definitions. I don't quite remember though.

[Fry]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I found it was lacking in some areas to the point I couldn't use it. Also the fact that it didn't have layer support meant it didn't offer enough for me to move over from the current editor.

Mainly it had problems saving options/tile definitions. I don't quite remember though.

The version in the source repository does saving and creating of tile definitions, could probably test that a bit and then update the executable.

Also if you could name some of the areas where it is lacking, they can maybe be fixed if they are reasonable, I just haven't had much time in the last few months, so not much has happened. The problem with most tile editing related changes is that they are personal preferences, in the future there should probably be a special options dialog for selection/tile behavior.

And the problem with layers is that there are some implementation obscurities in how Stefan intend(ed) to implement them in the Graal client, since, considering they are not even "officially" supported right now, there's not much information about it. That, and the actual usefulness of them (maybe someone could link a level where they are used?).

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Fry

That, and the actual usefulness of them?

As stated by others in this thread (and other threads), the biggest plus with using layers is to be able to use a foreground and then have tiles with transparency drawn on top of them so you won't have to make another of the same tile with a different foreground for each foreground type.

[napo_p2p]

Originally Posted by Fry

Also if you could name some of the areas where it is lacking, they can maybe be fixed if they are reasonable, I just haven't had much time in the last few months, so not much has happened. The problem with most tile editing related changes is that they are personal preferences, in the future there should probably be a special options dialog for selection/tile behavior.

If you could get the flood fill finished, that would help a lot. Another thing I could think of is support for loading gmaps.

[xXziroXx]

Little bump, but, stuff like this is the main usefulness of layers - and yes, we DO need an editor that supports them.



Credits to Angelus for the level.

[Loriel]

Any chance you could post the level?

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Loriel

Any chance you could post the level?

If I'm not entirely wrong, the actual level is only on one layer. I think Angelus replicated it by using several images to make it look like it was layers, I remember him always saying how much layers would make it less complicated.

Basically, it would be divided in:

• Layer 1 (lowest) - Some landscaping.
• Layer 2 - The actual walkable part of the level, the part of the screenshot that's on the top.

The cloud images would also be placed on Layer 1, to make it look like layer 2 is above them.

Layers are 100% about making eye candy.

[Fry]

Is it actually possible to assign NPCs to layers? As far as I remember the tile-layer is a property exclusive to tiles.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Fry

Is it actually possible to assign NPCs to layers? As far as I remember the tile-layer is a property exclusive to tiles.

Not as far as I know, no. But I remember Zero (zokemon) displaying an image below a layer, although I can't remember how he did it.

[XdNemesisXd]

Looks nice it could b e like Heven lol

[zokemon]

Tilelayers are all bunched together in one actual visiblity layer (right under layer 0 for TShowimgs and such). Because of this, you can't place anything inbetween any tilelayers; only above and below all of them. Placing something above is obvious but to place something behind it, you have to actually make a GUI object and move it behind GraalControl. So no, npcs can't be behind tilelayers.

Sorry!

And yeah, I haven't been up with Graal and all but did Stefan ever fix those external windows? If so I could have my built-in level editor done...