Copyrighted Music

[xAzerothx]

I believe it's because when you upload something to your server you claim that you made it and all it's contents. When you stream you didn't upload it to your server so you're not claiming it as your own.

[thesmoothcriminal]

But the condition that you stream is that its done for non-commercial (mostly private) purposes. Streamed music on graal = commercial purposes. And even so either way you cannot edit the stream (Atrius club level loop).

[kia345]

Originally Posted by thesmoothcriminal

But the condition that you stream is that its done for non-commercial (mostly private) purposes. Streamed music on graal = commercial purposes. And even so either way you cannot edit the stream (Atrius club level loop).

That only matters if the site you're streaming it from has a policy against commercial uses. When you stream it, you're assuming and trusting that the site legally owns the media and is allowing you to use it for your own means.

[Oinkness]

The only thing that matters is that if you stream the audio, graal can't be held liable. That's really where their care ends as far as audio goes. It's behind the curtain at that point.

[thesmoothcriminal]

Originally Posted by kia345

That only matters if the site you're streaming it from has a policy against commercial uses. When you stream it, you're assuming and trusting that the site legally owns the media and is allowing you to use it for your own means.

Show me a site that has a policy for commercial use. more or less non existant bar maybe one or two crap sites.

[Oinkness]

Originally Posted by thesmoothcriminal

Show me a site that has a policy for commercial use. more or less non existant bar maybe one or two crap sites.

If a site can figure out that you're streaming their mp3 on Graal, they have every right to contact you and complain... but the likelihood that they will actually be able to find you is very low. And even if they do, you just need to remove the stream and there'll be no problem.

You'll probably only have problems if you run up and go, "I'm streaming from your site! Na na na na na na!"

[jorollychu]

Come on come on
I see no changes. Wake up in the morning and I ask myself,
"Is life worth living? Should I blast myself?"
I'm tired of bein' poor and even worse I'm black.
My stomach hurts, so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch.
Cops give a damn about a negro? Pull the trigger, kill a juggler, he's a hero.

[DrakilorP2P]

Originally Posted by jorollychu

Come on come on
I see no changes. Wake up in the morning and I ask myself,
"Is life worth living? Should I blast myself?"
I'm tired of bein' poor and even worse I'm black.
My stomach hurts, so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch.
Cops give a damn about a negro? Pull the trigger, kill a juggler, he's a hero.

Did I just see a rhyme on the same word?

[thesmoothcriminal]

Originally Posted by Oinkness

If a site can figure out that you're streaming their mp3 on Graal, they have every right to contact you and complain... but the likelihood that they will actually be able to find you is very low. And even if they do, you just need to remove the stream and there'll be no problem.

You'll probably only have problems if you run up and go, "I'm streaming from your site! Na na na na na na!"

I agree with what your saying. Usually theres no way of knowing unless some one tells u that graal is streaming your music. But if graal wants 0 liability then they wont allow streaming without proof of consent.

Can someone from Atruis please tell why they wanted soulja boy being played in the club? an why it was made into such a bad loop?
But really i love you guys over at atrius (kinda atleast)

[kia345]

Originally Posted by DrakilorP2P

Did I just see a rhyme on the same word?

Myself and pronounce the second one muh-self. Easy loophole.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by thesmoothcriminal

Show me a site that has a policy for commercial use. more or less non existant bar maybe one or two crap sites.

If they don't say 'don't do it', then it's not really a problem. That said, the average Graal user isn't using it for commercial purposes. Only if Stefan or someone started doing it would it become a problem.

[CharlieM]

I dont really know why its like that, it kinda pissed me off when I was in the level making sure it was streaming, because it just kept looping over and over and over -_- I might change it

[thesmoothcriminal]

Originally Posted by kia345

If they don't say 'don't do it', then it's not really a problem. That said, the average Graal user isn't using it for commercial purposes. Only if Stefan or someone started doing it would it become a problem.

LOL it is a problem, dont you read the internet news. The music biz is sueing everyone violating copyright. The average Graal user IS using it for commercial purposes as long as CJ charges money for access to Graal. If graal is making money while a stream is being used then its commercial. Doesnt matter who is doing it. This attitude of its ok as long as its not noticed should be unacceptable if CJ wants to be not liable. Either way unnoticed or not, its still violating copyright, which no respectable mmo does.

Edit: if you meant its ok to stream as long as they site has no copyright warning then your wrong again. Look at copyright laws.

[CharlieM]

Streaming isnt stealing, and also thats why you use samples

[thesmoothcriminal]

No its not stealing, its a violation of copyright law! Streaming is usually meant for private purposes. Also Its a stupid/popular misconception about samples. Just because you use 20 of crap ass soulja boy doesnt make it legal. The amount of seconds of Soulja boy u can use is 0.

Again i encourage you to look up copyright laws.