Low playercount

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Vima

YEARS ago it didn't really matter if there were school, or vacations. Graal always had a steady playercount. I dunno Tig, maybe you just hang around on GK which have always had 10-20 players online these years. So maybe you can't see that other servers on Classic tab, which used to have 100+ every day are now having 60+. Each week they're losing players. Let's take UN for example: 6 months ago, they had 120 players, according to graalstats, today roughly 50 players. HMM.. But wait, maybe we can go back this exact day last year? It had about 90 players back then, now it have ~50. Where did the 40 players go? Huh Tig? Maybe UMM MORE PEOPLZ GO 2 SCHOOL NOWDAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

Let's skip the bull****. :]

You talk like GK never had 100+ players.

Originally Posted by Galdor

I just don't get why graal would be more fun on iphone tho, I mean it has like 1126 players atm while the pc graal has 441 players (even counted with all the dev servers) X.x

There is no iPhone version of Graal yet, but their games like Adrenaline Pool are counted in. The games are actually pretty decent.

[Crimson2005]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I'm not being sarcastic. Graal isn't dying. People just like to negatively diagnose things so they can feel like they're contributing to the conversation. They don't take time to really research. It's not dying, and I have yet to see any proof of it dying other than school starting.

No, it is. People are contributing to the conversation because it is relevant, and for those that are regularly on the game it's incredibly apparent even without making any research. If you look at the graph Crono posted however, it is dying because there wasn't even a Summer crowd increase and the players are the people who make this "game" what it is.

Where is the proof that Graal is heading in a positive direction? All I ever see is a lack of interest from both administrators and players. Oh yeah, discussions about flash games

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Crimson2005

No, it is. People are contributing to the conversation because it is relevant, and for those that are regularly on the game it's incredibly apparent even without making any research. If you look at the graph Crono posted however, it is dying because there wasn't even a Summer crowd increase and the players are the people who make this "game" what it is.

Where is the proof that Graal is heading in a positive direction? All I ever see is a lack of interest from both administrators and players. Oh yeah, discussions about flash games

okay then, it's dying.
i guarentee you it will grow when school's out.
and then it'll die again when school starts.

[Crimson2005]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

okay then, it's dying.
i guarentee you it will grow when school's out.
and then it'll die again when school starts.

It didn't when the Summer break started, why would it for Winter?

[Elizabeth]

I never said anything about winter.
I said when school's out.
But- It probably will grow when Winter break starts.

[Galdor]

I made an ad for us to use, was a bit inspired by an ad on the swedish Greenpeace site.

[Crimson2005]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

I never said anything about winter.
I said when school's out.
But- It probably will grow when Winter break starts.

The point is that Graal will most likely continue to decline unless we have some updates on a regular basis. Even servers are not updating on a regular basis now and things are not going to fix themselves.

[Elizabeth]

Zone is getting lots of updates- and more are planned.
Unholy Nation JUST got a new manager- one who was a part of the GAT and scripting team- so expect lots of updates in the future.
I'm sure that Tigairius has lots planned for GK.
If you look at the "Events News" tab when you're on the serverlist- there's 5 updates within 5 days.

[Crono]

Look at the graph picture I posted, it has nothing to do with school, summer, or work.

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

Zone is getting lots of updates- and more are planned.

Name these "lots" of updates and the more that are planned.

Unholy Nation JUST got a new manager- one who was a part of the GAT and scripting team- so expect lots of updates in the future.
I'm sure that Tigairius has lots planned for GK.
If you look at the "Events News" tab when you're on the serverlist- there's 5 updates within 5 days.

Plans plans plans, call me when something is actually done.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Crono

Name these "lots" of updates and the more that are planned.

Zone:
-Bunker
-New heads, bodies.
-New guns: Plasma Chaingun, Silencer, RedRifle&BlueRifle are made buyable.
-Cakes
-Spar is to be updated soon, as said in "spar room" thread.

Unholy Nation:
-New Tileset
-Snow
-Streety is the new manager.
-Lots of hirings. (GATS, GPs, DJs)
-Unholy Radio has recently been broadcasting.

Plans plans plans, call me when something is actually [i]done[/i

Plans are to be finished.
And when they are finished, they are updates.

Lots of plans= Lots of updates.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

Unholy Nation JUST got a new manager- one who was a part of the GAT and scripting team-

Mediocre graphics, and 'complex' scripts that do little more than replace and set ganis

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

plans are to be finished.
finished = updates.

Plans != finished plans. Plans aren't magically finished, so you can't decude that plans = finished = updates.

It's more like...

if (plans == finished) updates;

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by kia345

Mediocre graphics, and 'complex' scripts that do little more than replace and set ganis

Well, look at Zone- they just got some new updates, and their playercount has been growing.



Hmmmm.


Those updates were graphics.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

Zone:
-Bunker

Oh, the one with 0 players.

-New heads, bodies.

This is standard stuff on any server.

-New guns: Plasma Chaingun, Silencer, RedRifle&BlueRifle are made buyable.

Silencer, Red rifle, and Blue Rifle are not new. Removing something and then re-adding it in the future is not really an "update". Silencer has existed for atleast 2 years on Zone Debug, there's more too they just haven't released them yet.

-Cakes

From last year.

-Spar is to be updated soon, as said in "spar room" thread.

That's nice but this (along with other things you mentioned) aren't the type of updates Crimson2005 is talking about.

Unholy Nation:
-New Tileset
-Snow

Standard winter themes.

-Streety is the new manager.

This counts as an update nowadays? What?

-Lots of hirings. (GATS, GPs, DJs)

This counts as an update nowadays? What?

-Unholy Radio has recently been broadcasting.

Thank the Gods, Graal is saved!

Plans are to be finished.
And when they are finished, they are updates.

Lots of plans= Lots of updates.

Plans are usually NEVER finished. Lots of plans != Lots of updates.

All in all Graal is dying, which is what the original topic was about. The graph I posted proves this, and unless you have troubles reading graphis why are you still trying to argue?

[kia345]

Zone's playercount is a fraction of what it was