Graal iPhone/iPod: Will be released on Apple AppStore!

[xAzerothx]

Originally Posted by Spark910

They sent what they felt was an adequate version, however Apple requested more improvements (according to Stefan's post).

Apple didn't test the application before they put it online? They could of seen the problems.

[WanDaMan]

Maybe we'll see an increase of the players soon (Online, not on iPod)?!

[Spark910]

Originally Posted by xAzerothx

Apple didn't test the application before they put it online? They could of seen the problems.

No one knows why it was put online if we're following Stefan's facts! They reviewed it (however they do that), but requested changes. Then, unexpectedly, it was available online without the changes as CJ decided to concentrate on their card games first!

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Spark910

No one knows why it was put online if we're following Stefan's facts! They reviewed it (however they do that), but requested changes. Then, unexpectedly, it was available online without the changes as CJ decided to concentrate on their card games first!

Mmm Hmm.
Graal was the only one of all the hundreds of apps out who experienced this problem, and it's the big corporation's fault, not CJ.
Riiiiiight.

[Vima]

OK, so whats going to happen now?
When will we expect Graal on available on iPod/iPhone?

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Mmm Hmm.
Graal was the only one of all the hundreds of apps out who experienced this problem, and it's the big corporation's fault, not CJ.
Riiiiiight.

Actually the App Store has been very buggy from launch, it sounds perfectly reasonable that Apple messed up.

[Spark910]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Mmm Hmm.
Graal was the only one of all the hundreds of apps out who experienced this problem, and it's the big corporation's fault, not CJ.
Riiiiiight.

You don't know that they were the only one to experience this, you are simply assuming that this is the case. You can't just make such a statement.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Spark910

You don't know that they were the only one to experience this, you are simply assuming that this is the case. You can't just make such a statement.

It's what excaliber tends to do. I'll quote Stephen:

Originally Posted by Stephen

You need to stop making content-free worldly statements ASAP.

[Kristi]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Actually the App Store has been very buggy from launch, it sounds perfectly reasonable that Apple messed up.

That's crazy. Apple has ABSOLUTELY NO track history of messing up on initial launches, ever.
//~sarcasm

You can't tell Cali the truth when it pertains to apple being flawed. He will just ignore it.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Actually the App Store has been very buggy from launch, it sounds perfectly reasonable that Apple messed up.

Yeah, they had problems with developers putting spaces before their name.
To be honest, I haven't had any problems buying from my computer or the iPod.
I've had a lot more problems with graal

Besides, I haven't heard of other developers complaining about apple somehow getting ahold of your beta software and releasing it.

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Yeah, they had problems with developers putting spaces before their name.

They've also had problems with categories and miscategorising, metadata being messed up on applications, search not working, approved applications going missing and reappearing... The list goes on.

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Besides, I haven't heard of other developers complaining about apple somehow getting ahold of your beta software and releasing it.

You make it sound like they're breaking into your house in the middle of the night and running off with your laptop. For an application to be launched on the store, the developers have to submit the application for approval (which is a tested process), therefore they already have the application before release. The issue here is that Apple initially rejected it, and then without any warning, released it when it was not expected to be released.

And yes, it has happened to others, as well as people's applications even going missing from the review process. Try reading the comments people leave on El Reg articles about the jesusphone once in a while.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Skyld

They've also had problems with categories and miscategorising, metadata being messed up on applications, search not working, approved applications going missing and reappearing... The list goes on.

You make it sound like they're breaking into your house in the middle of the night and running off with your laptop. For an application to be launched on the store, the developers have to submit the application for approval (which is a tested process), therefore they already have the application before release. The issue here is that Apple initially rejected it, and then without any warning, released it when it was not expected to be released.

And yes, it has happened to others, as well as people's applications even going missing from the review process. Try reading the comments people leave on El Reg articles about the jesusphone once in a while.

So Graal sent them a beta version to be approved, then planned to send them another version later, which would have to be re-approved?

Sounds like it was complete in the mind of CJ, so they put it out, only to hear the many complaints of the users (often filtered here, not so much on iTunes), and pulled it down to fix it.

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

So Graal sent them a beta version to be approved, then planned to send them another version later, which would have to be re-approved?

No. Cyberjoueurs sent them what they would have initially considered to be a complete client, and Apple responded basically with "We didn't like this so much, so change this and this and we'll reconsider." So, Cyberjoueurs rethink a couple of details and plan to submit another version for review. Except then, Apple suddenly approve the application for a while before removing it again.

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Sounds like it was complete in the mind of CJ, so they put it out, only to hear the many complaints of the users (often filtered here, not so much on iTunes), and pulled it down to fix it.

Think that if you want, but that's quite a large defamation. The App Store is a rigorously moderated when it comes to the applications they post for the public to use.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Skyld

No. Cyberjoueurs sent them what they would have initially considered to be a complete client, and Apple responded basically with "We didn't like this so much, so change this and this and we'll reconsider." So, Cyberjoueurs rethink a couple of details and plan to submit another version for review. Except then, Apple suddenly approve the application for a while before removing it again.

Well, if they sent it to them, then they wanted it released then. Maybe Apple did change their mind, but if CJ thought the first product was good enough, they have nothing to complain about.
Now, the players on the other hand...

Think that if you want, but that's quite a large defamation. The App Store is a rigorously moderated when it comes to the applications they post for the public to use.

Not as large as I've had for them in the past

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Well, if they sent it to them, then they wanted it released then. Maybe Apple did change their mind, but if CJ thought the first product was good enough, they have nothing to complain about.
Now, the players on the other hand...

What part of "Apple wanted Cyberjoueurs to change the product slightly" don't you quite understand?