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Old 08-24-2008, 05:35 AM
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...And you think this is a problem with gear?
More gear options would be a minor fix. And minor changes are as much a part of GK as RoWs are.

The point is, they're almost essential for pk'ing. It's not your everyday petty item that you keep for reselling, it's actually an important part of the game that is required for getting the fullest out of bmode.
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Old 08-24-2008, 05:37 AM
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The point is, they're almost essential for pk'ing. It's not your everyday petty item that you keep for reselling, it's actually an important part of the game that is required for getting the fullest out of bmode.
Ignoring the gear and "system" situation - It's sort of disappointing that you don't recognize the shortcomings of handing out "leet" items to everyone, especially after Sam and his group of jokers practically molested the GK economy by doing the very same thing.

Really, it's more startling than disappointing.
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Old 08-24-2008, 07:42 AM
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The point is, they're almost essential for pk'ing. It's not your everyday petty item that you keep for reselling, it's actually an important part of the game that is required for getting the fullest out of bmode.
If you want, I'll loan you some money to try spawning rings. I loaned 100,000 to Juggernaut to do the same thing. You should ask him how it's going if you see him.
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:47 PM
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Hacking & Ban Evasion are lifetime, so even if they decide he shouldn't be banned for past hacking, he still evaded bans. And if all else fails, he's banned for 30 days for harassment (normally, could I guess be more).
I thought Ban Evasion was 30 days... Meh oh well.
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It would be pretty neat if some of the items also ended up buried in the ground on the main island.
More like the kingdom they where on, not main isle.
That'd give more of a reason to go to the kingdom islands, not just for their home (Since I don't see much war anymore...)
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:36 PM
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I thought Ban Evasion was 30 days... Meh oh well.
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There's no set-out punishment for most rule violations, but there should be.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:16 PM
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I thought Ban Evasion was 30 days... Meh oh well.
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It may be 30 days, but he'd still be banned as there is time left on his old account.

iSplash has done a significant amount of hacking in his past, he won't be unbanned.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:56 PM
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There's no set-out punishment for most rule violations, but there should be.
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There's timers for every hacking on there. Only 2 are forever I think.
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It may be 30 days, but he'd still be banned as there is time left on his old account.

iSplash has done a significant amount of hacking in his past, he won't be unbanned.
And you think I'd know?


Seriously, I think we should give up trying to help GK.
In my opinion, the staff just don't seem to want to take ideas from the players and atleast test them out to see if it'll do any good.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:25 PM
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Seriously, I think we should give up trying to help GK.
In my opinion, the staff just don't seem to want to take ideas from the players and atleast test them out to see if it'll do any good.
One must organize their thoughts before presenting them. Comments like "This sucks" or "that sucks" are not suggestions. They are what I call "Anti-Suggestions".

A decent suggestion will present an alternative to the present system in question, or an addition to "repair" or upgrade. An example "Anti-Suggestions" might be... "The idling on GK sucks" while a suggestion might look more like "The idling on GK sucks, we should enforce disconnection after extended periods of inactivity in addition to scipts to detect and report macro use".

To be blunt the sort of statements such as the one I have quoted strikes me as quite stupid. I have previously asked for players productive input and I found it was hard to find; between the lack of interest I had to deal with anti-suggestions. The results were useless.

I welcome suggestions, but that doesn't mean they will be developed. Any people serious about their suggestions may want to take the time to refine it.

One suggestion I have anyone who wishes to express their disappointment might be to avoid sweeping generalizations like "the staff"; there is no burgeoning force working around the clock to develop new material for GK. There is only Tigairius and myself with the exception of the few kingdom related staff - who are typically idling.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:26 PM
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Seriously, I think we should give up trying to help GK.
In my opinion, the staff just don't seem to want to take ideas from the players and atleast test them out to see if it'll do any good.
That was the old staff team. Some stuff has actually been done since Tig got manager position.
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Old 08-30-2008, 01:12 AM
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There's timers for every hacking on there. Only 2 are forever I think.
Ban length on each individual banned account is set, but there isn't anything like a list of rules with breaking this rule = this punishment, so two different players can receive different punishments for the same crime.
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Old 08-24-2008, 07:59 AM
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If anything GK needs fewer of the super high end items and needs a LOOTTTTTT more items in between.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:14 AM
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Gk just needs a more variety of rings and items to choose from. sure, RoWs went frm 500 dias to 1k+.. But if you release something similar to Rows but like with more str and less con or something, i'm sure Rows would drop in price.. ( nothing like bloods, bloods aren't realy best for any class. )
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:58 AM
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Gk just needs a more variety of rings and items to choose from. sure, RoWs went frm 500 dias to 1k+.. But if you release something similar to Rows but like with more str and less con or something, i'm sure Rows would drop in price.. ( nothing like bloods, bloods aren't realy best for any class. )
Yes, release rings with ten dozen more ill-thought-out stat point assignments because players whine about a ring spawn rate. Capitol idea, old bean!

Pleez. Half the suggestions made by players for stats are obviously made by driveling powergamers that don't have the slightest conception of how to balance stats or even specialize in one area of levelling. So many people don't even pay attention to what stats actually do, and they're really missing out. So it's really irresponsible to just deck out more stuff that gets you to 'endgame' stats in a snap. Otherwise you have wealthier people (not naming names, but some of us know who they are) running around with absurdly high stats all the time and monopolizing the market for those as well. It's not going to change, man. GK has this stuff ingrained in it now because of the way it was structured. The stats you see on everything are so stupidly high all the time because it's technically endgame material, but not necessarily for Kingdoms...
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:46 PM
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Yes, release rings with ten dozen more ill-thought-out stat point assignments because players whine about a ring spawn rate. Capitol idea, old bean!

Pleez. Half the suggestions made by players for stats are obviously made by driveling powergamers that don't have the slightest conception of how to balance stats or even specialize in one area of levelling. So many people don't even pay attention to what stats actually do, and they're really missing out. So it's really irresponsible to just deck out more stuff that gets you to 'endgame' stats in a snap. Otherwise you have wealthier people (not naming names, but some of us know who they are) running around with absurdly high stats all the time and monopolizing the market for those as well. It's not going to change, man. GK has this stuff ingrained in it now because of the way it was structured. The stats you see on everything are so stupidly high all the time because it's technically endgame material, but not necessarily for Kingdoms...
big bulk of words hurt my eyes. That was all i read. People already run aroundn with high stats?
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:58 PM
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This is the same discussion as always, people with good gear prefer the exclusivity of their gear to a good gameplay, and people with mediocre gear would like to hit the top class of players.

I think without a sort of compromise, it will always be like that, except the class of good players will be shrinking further.
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