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Old 06-19-2005, 06:55 AM
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If someone creates something on a playerworld which they have rights to (they created it...they have rights to it), and they later remove it for whatever reason, and then later on quit, then they have full rights to do so. Quitting really is not a factor at all.
It is all backed up, if someone does remove something the manager of the server can ask for it to be restored by Stefan/unixmad. You are not allowed to remove content from a server just because you leave it.
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Old 06-19-2005, 06:58 AM
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It is all backed up, if someone does remove something the manager of the server can ask for it to be restored by Stefan/unixmad. You are not allowed to remove content from a server just because you leave it.

Either way it's no major problem unless it's as big as deleting the server.
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Old 06-19-2005, 07:07 AM
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Don't use copyrighted material. That is the law. Actual law. As for anything else, who cares?

Abusive staff weapons? So what.
Jailing without reason? Blah.

It is their playerworld that they paid for and no one is forced to visit it. Do with it as they please.
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Old 06-19-2005, 11:30 AM
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If there isn't a written rule set it would be possible for a PWA member to specify something as a rule that the others might not agree on.
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Old 06-19-2005, 11:52 AM
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Abusive staff weapons? So what.
2 Era staff were globally banned for abusing staff weapons, and some other person has for making an intentionally abusive weapon.

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Jailing without reason? Blah.
It's to aid communication, it'll just be unbanned without one.
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Old 06-19-2005, 12:55 PM
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2 Era staff were globally banned for abusing staff weapons, and some other person has for making an intentionally abusive weapon.


It's to aid communication, it'll just be unbanned without one.
I would be fine with the abusive weapon/npcs thing as long as this is only enforced for public servers.
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Old 06-19-2005, 02:20 PM
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2 Era staff were globally banned for abusing staff weapons, and some other person has for making an intentionally abusive weapon.
Thats stupid, leave the local problems to local staff. If the staff can't handle it, then you get the globals. Abusing staff weapons shouldn't be a global ban. It makes graal fun.
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Old 06-19-2005, 02:21 PM
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They were globalled because no one was able to prevent them from doing it. Jenn was away for 3 months.
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Old 06-19-2005, 02:44 PM
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They were globalled because no one was able to prevent them from doing it. Jenn was away for 3 months.
Yeah, and they abused to an extent that players were un-able to move around the server to to masses of staff blocks.
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Old 06-19-2005, 03:01 PM
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So why not ban them from just the server they effected?
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Old 06-19-2005, 03:07 PM
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So why not ban them from just the server they effected?
What will stop them doing it on another server?
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Old 06-19-2005, 03:41 PM
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I am asking the globals, not you...you dont know anything about it..I would like a clear answer from pwa or Stefan

And I am not talking about people who delete something and then quit weeks later, I am talking about people who delete content, then quit right after.
Especially when the Manager did not give permission for said content to be removed because it was being used.

If there is no rule, and a person can simply remove content just because they still work there, then quit...What is the point in Giving Developement staff rights to do the job if we have to worry about them getting upset and removing their stuff before quitting, and leaving the server in a mess, because it is perfectly legal?

I was always told that if staff make something for a PW, it cannot be removed or used elsewhere without the Managers/owners consent.
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Old 06-19-2005, 04:47 PM
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And I am not talking about people who delete something and then quit weeks later, I am talking about people who delete content, then quit right after.
Especially when the Manager did not give permission for said content to be removed because it was being used.

If there is no rule, and a person can simply remove content just because they still work there, then quit...What is the point in Giving Developement staff rights to do the job if we have to worry about them getting upset and removing their stuff before quitting, and leaving the server in a mess, because it is perfectly legal?

I was always told that if staff make something for a PW, it cannot be removed or used elsewhere without the Managers/owners consent.

You can't remove something from a server when the only reason is that you're quitting. If you have reason to remove something that you created, then you can remove it.


But I see where this thread is going. Last I checked, the PWA rules did not state anything on deletion of anything on a level as an offense. It's quite obvious you get in trouble for deleting a server, but the globals don't step in on little things. Every manager should have back-ups of everything. If not, then do as Rick said, and ask Stefan or Unixmad for backups.

But most of it is a playerworlds responsibility. It seems now-a-days PWA are enforcing rules that don't exist, because they are not all in the PWA rules thread.
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Old 06-19-2005, 04:50 PM
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You can't remove something from a server when the only reason is that you're quitting. If you have reason to remove something that you created, then you can remove it.


But I see where this thread is going. Last I checked, the PWA rules did not state anything on deletion of anything on a level as an offense. It's quite obvious you get in trouble for deleting a server, but the globals don't step in on little things. Every manager should have back-ups of everything. If not, then do as Rick said, and ask Stefan or Unixmad for backups.

But most of it is a playerworlds responsibility. It seems now-a-days PWA are enforcing rules that don't exist, because they are not all in the PWA rules thread.
It is my understanding, that deleting content without the Manager's permission has always been against global rules...and again, I am asking for PWA/stefan confirmation
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Old 06-19-2005, 04:52 PM
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It is my understanding, that deleting content without the Manager's permission has always been against global rules...and again, I am asking for PWA/stefan confirmation

Once again, if that were true then everyone would be global banned. Why? Because when you upload something to a server, it becomes property of Graal Online, right? Well, if you really thought what you just said, then everyone would be global banned, not only for deleting content without the managers permission, but for deleting content that was not theirs.
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