New Scripted RC - Page 2

scriptless · #1 09-23-2014, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakov_the_Jakovasaur

if only people who developed their own new-and-improved external rc didnt get banned all the time...

Making it, and distributing it are 2 separate things. It's distributing it that gets you banned I'm pretty sure.

BlueMelon · #2 09-23-2014, 09:51 AM

Who is in charge of these updates?
It's a good start, but it's no where near upto par with the external RC. Why is the text editor background blue? ...
If external RC is disabled, this would only hinder development on many servers. Do not disable external RC

fowlplay4 · #3 09-23-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueMelon

Who is in charge of these updates?
It's a good start, but it's no where near upto par with the external RC. Why is the text editor background blue? ...
If external RC is disabled, this would only hinder development on many servers. Do not disable external RC

You need to use vplusblue to get a 'white background' and stuff. Attached my mod which is a bit better than it.

Request: Write an API or something so we can make our own RCs.

BlueMelon · #4 09-25-2014, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

You need to use vplusblue to get a 'white background' and stuff. Attached my mod which is a bit better than it.

Request: Write an API or something so we can make our own RCs.

This does improve the over-all look of... everything.

Thanks.

xAndrewx · #5 09-23-2014, 02:10 PM

I think it's great. Tested on my pc and mother in laws, all fine no issues.

I would like to see a better functioning file directory- you can't download multiple files (only one at a time) same with deleting.

Great job

Matt · #6 09-23-2014, 02:37 PM

Very good work and i'm excited to see a bit more focus on RC for iOS and Android, although i do not support the external RC being disabled. Any reason for it?

Tim_Rocks · #7 09-23-2014, 03:33 PM

I really don't want external RC going away. How exactly am I supposed to restart a server when all the serverside scripts are inactive until the server starts up?? Plus I am constantly experiencing disconnections on player which would result in lost time, script progress, and updating comments... Plus I don't wanna deal with an upload menu for files, I drag and drop files all day. Anyway, bad idea. You need to figure out some way to create a new external RC.

DustyPorViva · #8 09-23-2014, 03:40 PM

Do you want to lose the last few scripters on Graal, 'cause this is a very good way to make that happen in my opinion.

Tim_Rocks · #9 09-23-2014, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Do you want to lose the last few scripters on Graal, 'cause this is a very good way to make that happen in my opinion.

Dusty is right, a lot of development staff are going to quit.

Operation kill PC is in full effect.

fowlplay4 · #10 09-23-2014, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Do you want to lose the last few scripters on Graal, 'cause this is a very good way to make that happen in my opinion.

backing this.

There are tons of people willing to put effort into building a new external RC, make an API or something available so we can create secure third-party RCs.

The lack of OS native GUI elements and terrible font rendering pretty much makes any scripted RC inferior in that regard.

BlueMelon · #11 09-23-2014, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

backing this.

There are tons of people willing to put effort into building a new external rc, make an api or something available so we can create secure third-party rcs.

The lack of os native gui elements and terrible font rendering pretty much makes any scripted rc inferior in that regard.

+1

xAndrewx · #12 09-23-2014, 04:56 PM

I can't see it happening. Instead of opening RC you'll open the client. What makes you think it will have an impact?

Most new players on Graal have no idea what external RC is or how to use it.

Maybe I'm looking at it from an iOS environment....

DustyPorViva · #13 09-23-2014, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Most new players on Graal have no idea what external RC is or how to use it.

That is a horrible, horrible justification.

fowlplay4 · #14 09-23-2014, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I can't see it happening. Instead of opening RC you'll open the client. What makes you think it will have an impact?

Most new players on Graal have no idea what external RC is or how to use it.

Maybe I'm looking at it from an iOS environment....

That's the problem I don't want to be on client.

Unless there's plans to fix the font rendering and bring native-styled GUI elements (vPlusBlue is ****ing garbage) to the client. A client-based Scripted RC will always be inferior.

And how many good devs legitimately use client RC for developing? I've never encountered someone who uses it for anything more than editing flags or a minor edit on a script or a GP using it so they don't have to open external RC.

Why impose an inferior development environment on the last remaining good devs on this platform?

Matt · #15 09-23-2014, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

That's the problem I don't want to be on client.

Unless there's plans to fix the font rendering and bring native-styled GUI elements (vPlusBlue is ****ing garbage) to the client. A client-based Scripted RC will always be inferior.

And how many good devs legitimately use client RC for developing? I've never encountered someone who uses it for anything more than editing flags or a minor edit on a script or a GP using it so they don't have to open external RC.

Why impose an inferior development environment on the last remaining good devs on this platform?

Agreed 100%