Gun Skins!

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Godzilla

After re-reading the posts I thought I would address this; How are they going to know? How are the players going to know that you're doing more than your job? When I was a PR under RayMan's shenanigans I was completely aware of all development and helping wherever possible and even he didn't know I was multi-tasking my PR work with other work. I mean, unless you run around unstick me saying; "Hey I just recolored all the guns for you guys so have fun with them" players really won't know that you did it but I guess that's what people love now-a-days, recognition of what they have done, attention.

I mean, I was cycling in and out hats at the SR shop and the only people who knew were the management and high admins. I was getting gani's made for projects that we could use as quests and only management and high admins knew, I multi-tasked my PR work with other work and within a few months of being a PR, active every day and doing everything I could do I was rewarded with PRA.

It pays to help wherever you can help, especially if you have something to prove but that doesn't mean you need player recognition for it, the self reward and reward of thankfulness from the development and management was more than enough to keep me interested in everything I did.

You're clearly missing the point.

[BlueMelon]

I believe the main point that has come across here is that if you're on the staff team and are able to do more then your assigned task and are willing to help/can balance the workload of multiple tasks, go for it. This is already being done of the staff team, some PR's might have graphics access already as might some LAT's have limited script access.

Edit: Same thing goes to the community, if you can create some amazing GFX or can make creative levels (and are willing to contribute to the server), we would gladly accept your help/contributions.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Well, putting that aside, Having PRs around for when they actually do have work to do couldn't hurt. I also don't think gun skins are hurting anything. Everyone likes different stuff.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

Well, putting that aside, Having PRs around for when they actually do have work to do couldn't hurt. I also don't think gun skins are hurting anything. Everyone likes different stuff.

The work they do could be done by an Admin or somebody on the development team. Let's face it, PR work is not hard, you just have to dig up a few logs. Takes a few mins at most.

Most of the development team just warp around unstick not knowing what to do, i could name but i wouldn't do that. Nothing wrong with giving them PR rights to give them something to do when they aren't development and yeah i'm pretty sure they aren't most of the time.

Gun skins, whatever but all this fuss about it? That's when it's laughable. It's a gun skin man, what the hell is all the fuss about? Who cares ffs, nothing stoping people changing their gun skins in their graal folders they can have any skin they want...

[BlueMelon]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

The work they do could be done by an Admin or somebody on the development team. Let's face it, PR work is not hard, you just have to dig up a few logs. Takes a few mins at most.

In my opinion I believe PR's to play a prime role on Era. If I work on the development team, why would I lookup logs if I'm here to develop? (That's getting back to the previous point from a page earlier)

PR's deal with the small problems and help/lead on larger player related problems/issues Admins and Development staff might not have time for or want to deal with. (Note: most (if not all) current admins are developers)

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by BlueMelon

In my opinion I believe PR's to play a prime role on Era. If I work on the development team, why would I lookup logs if I'm here to develop? (That's getting back to the previous point from a page earlier)

PR's deal with the small problems and help/lead on larger player related problems/issues Admins and Development staff might not have time for or want to deal with. (Note: most (if not all) current admins are developers)

They don't really to be honest. Usually what happens is they are told to do the dirty work while you guys talk away on RC and fiddle with your thumbs. You guys don't develop 24/7, let's not act like you do. I know a lot of developers who don't do much at all. That have time to do PR roles. It's simple, scrap the PR role and give the developers PR rights. Hire some kiddies with the FAQ and they can direct the problems to an admin, or support system. Not hard.

You are here to develop but as an admin, i'm pretty sure it's your duty to do other roles. If you can't accept doing that, then i wouldn't have you on my team. And don't come back with 'Oh then we wouldn't have any dev team because they wouldn't do it' We all know you guys will clean the floors with a toothbrush to keep your RC and rights.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

They don't really to be honest. Usually what happens is they are told to do the dirty work while you guys talk away on RC and fiddle with your thumbs. You guys don't develop 24/7, let's not act like you do. I know a lot of developers who don't do much at all. That have time to do PR roles. It's simple, scrap the PR role and give the developers PR rights. Hire some kiddies with the FAQ and they can direct the problems to an admin, or support system. Not hard.

You are here to develop but as an admin, i'm pretty sure it's your duty to do other roles. If you can't accept doing that, then i wouldn't have you on my team. And don't come back with 'Oh then we wouldn't have any dev team because they wouldn't do it' We all know you guys will clean the floors with a toothbrush to keep your RC and rights.

Good luck with that buddy.

[shrimps]

Actually you can't edit the GFX on Era any more if I'm not mistaken, you get DCed and I think it alerts RC? Not sure, but if the file is changed it's a no no, and holy crap you guys are arguing about stupid things. Where are the Forum mods?

As for Pink gun skins?

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by shrimps

Actually you can't edit the GFX on Era any more if I'm not mistaken, you get DCed and I think it alerts RC?

That only happens on doors if I remember correctly.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

That only happens on doors if I remember correctly.

I thought it was trees and bullets too.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

I thought it was trees and bullets too.

I'm not 100% sure, I know it had to do with people deleting files to make them invisible to walk through doors or trees. At the moment though, I don't think it makes a difference since most things on Era have a set shape even without the image.

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by shrimps

Where are the Forum mods?

Era has no specific forum moderators because of ever-changing management, and the fact that someone highup (maybe unix?) said only managers could be mods.
The global forum mods sometimes have their hands full. While Era has the highest concentration of people needing moderation, every server probably has a few. Lump them all together on one unified forum..mmm.
I should remind you (as I myself was reminded) that each post has a report function and w/e

Originally Posted by BlueMelon

In my opinion I believe PR's to play a prime role on Era. If I work on the development team, why would I lookup logs if I'm here to develop?

PR's deal with the small problems and help/lead on larger player related problems/issues Admins and Development staff might not have time for or want to deal with. (Note: most (if not all) current admins are developers)

Pretty much this, I suppose. PRs are there to interface with players and deal with non-development related issues.
As for the players complaining about deletion/reinsertion of staff positions: It's not really up to you how management delegates the server's workload.
Disclaimer: Yes, I'm a PR. Yes, my opinions are subjective. So are yours. Sweet jesus ping me for something else at least.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

1.The most unprofessional server i have ever witnessed.
2.Half the management is against each other
3.The amount of abusing, abuse, and corruption within the management is horrendous.
4.The only way this server has a future if the PWA get on regularly and make sure they stay in line and make sure their projects are being finished (correctly).

1. We consistently beat every single other server for playercount. Once in a while, we hold more players than all other servers on the main page combined.
2/3 You wouldn't know, and I personally disagree. Having been through quite a few managements, I can honestly say that our team is pretty great comparatively.
4. Because you do not have login.txt log access I wouldn't expect you to know, but PWAs do check up regularly in-game, and (I assume) speak with administrators outside of it -- perhaps Stephen's response earlier in this thread is some indicator. If we were mucking up in their opinion, don't you think something would be done? mmm.

Originally Posted by Supaman771

This is the equivalent to continuously making Reese a PR.
If u don't add any spice to the same old food it gets boring after awhile.

Until the day I die, I will never understand what's up w/Reese. At this point he must be hmm-hmming unixmad himself.

Originally Posted by Godzilla

attention.
I mean,
I was cycling
I was getting gani's made
I multi-tasked my PR work
doing everything I could do I was rewarded

Neither humility nor consistency seem to be your strong suits.


Man isn't this fun I feel like Wil

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by Scoper

Neither humility nor consistency seem to be your strong suits.

Jumping on the forum and posting your opinion whilst it contradicts others doesn't mean you're right but again, prime example of someone who is big-headed and see's them self above others proving that all of the statements in other threads about Staff being the very cause for the servers long demise.

We could sit here and argue but you're wrong so I won't bother wasting more time.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Scoper

Era has no specific forum moderators because of ever-changing management, and the fact that someone highup (maybe unix?) said only managers could be mods.
The global forum mods sometimes have their hands full. While Era has the highest concentration of people needing moderation, every server probably has a few. Lump them all together on one unified forum..mmm.
I should remind you (as I myself was reminded) that each post has a report function and w/e




Pretty much this, I suppose. PRs are there to interface with players and deal with non-development related issues.
As for the players complaining about deletion/reinsertion of staff positions: It's not really up to you how management delegates the server's workload.
Disclaimer: Yes, I'm a PR. Yes, my opinions are subjective. So are yours. Sweet jesus ping me for something else at least.


1. We consistently beat every single other server for playercount. Once in a while, we hold more players than all other servers on the main page combined.
2/3 You wouldn't know, and I personally disagree. Having been through quite a few managements, I can honestly say that our team is pretty great comparatively.
4. Because you do not have login.txt log access I wouldn't expect you to know, but PWAs do check up regularly in-game, and (I assume) speak with administrators outside of it -- perhaps Stephen's response earlier in this thread is some indicator. If we were mucking up in their opinion, don't you think something would be done? mmm.



Until the day I die, I will never understand what's up w/Reese. At this point he must be hmm-hmming unixmad himself.



Neither humility nor consistency seem to be your strong suits.


Man isn't this fun I feel like Wil

Do you realize what you say most of the time, Scoper? You are staff so of course you will do and say anything to defend that. You are seriously telling me that the management team on era is run professionally and everyone sticks to the rules? You seriously telling me that projects are all lined up and being worked on in order and released when they are 100% working? Your staff team is a joke regardless of the playercount. We both know this.

Also just because a PWA logs onto era doesn't mean they are asking about projects and asking to show what you guys have been doing. They don't do that, which they should.

Also, 2. 'I wouldn't know that'... Why wouldn't i know that? I talk to them and they talk about each other, so don't tell me what i know and don't know.

Just because i don't have login.txt means that i am wrong? I am 100% right and you know i am to. When was the last time you seen a PWA come online and ask whats been going on and being asked to show what you guys came up with? Pretty sure it hasn't happened.

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by Scoper

Disclaimer: Yes, I'm a PR. Yes, my opinions are subjective. So are yours. Sweet jesus ping me for something else at least.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Do you realize what you say most of the time, Scoper? You are staff so of course you will do and say anything to defend that.

Hahahahaha igotuamirite

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

You are seriously telling me that the management team on era is run professionally and everyone sticks to the rules? You seriously telling me that projects are all lined up and being worked on in order and released when they are 100% working? Your staff team is a joke regardless of the playercount. We both know this.
.

I don't know if you're aware, but the expectations you have outlined do not happen anywhere -- they are idealistic as well as unrealistic, especially if you consider the fact that not a single person is paid to provide services to you, the player.
Nobody's perfect. I'm not perfect. Blue and rogue are in fact perfect. But damn man, we try.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

When was the last time you seen a PWA come online and ask whats been going on and being asked to show what you guys came up with? Pretty sure it hasn't happened.

It's hard to take your opinions seriously when you have no grasp of proper grammar. I'm not claiming to be a saint here myself, but..
Anyway, this does happen. I'm not allowed to copy RClogs (lest I be yelled at, banned, w/e), so you'll have to take my word for it. Or not. Probably not.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Other insults about my personal character and the staff team

Sometimes when I'm bored or not at home (no RC amirite) I come on here to post what I consider to be valid opinions; this generally leads to a shift where I just continue to post, because those points have not been addressed, for fun.
Hello pot, I'm kettle, and maaaan are we black.

At this point I'm looking forward to an entire page of Reply to deleted post. Give it a day or three