Graal Free To Play on Facebook and Android - Page 11

Demisis_P2P · #1 03-21-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hiro

i can understand the move in platforms, but what i don't understand is why it's free. if it's possible to have some form of free graal classic on the web, is it also not possible to have free graal on the PC?

the focus seems to be heavily on phone (and now) web based graal (which is still technically the iphone servers), so is it feasibly possible at all to make PC graal as easily available to all players by making it free?

is the facebook graal going to stay free indefinitely?

my hopes are low of course

Go back and read the whole thread. Or even just all of unixmad's posts in the thread.

Hiro · #2 03-21-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Go back and read the whole thread. Or even just all of unixmad's posts in the thread.

i did. he mentions briefly that once servers have switched to the item-based model that the servers can be free to play. this is not what i'm asking for, is not what i asked about, and frankly your reply was unneeded

maybe you should reread the entire thread so you can understand the context of my post better

and just to emphasize the point even more - PC graal going to an item-based economy to generate revenue is not going to happen to the classic-style servers anytime soon, unless they make changing colors on bodies (for example) something you have to buy, which would be terrible. what i'm asking about is a completely free PC graal and whether or not it is a possibility at all, not a pseudo-free PC graal where i have to purchase gelats (or whatever the hell they're called now) in order to change shoe color

fowlplay4 · #3 03-21-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro

and just to emphasize the point even more - PC graal going to an item-based economy to generate revenue is not going to happen to the classic-style servers anytime soon, unless they make changing colors on bodies (for example) something you have to buy, which would be terrible. what i'm asking about is a completely free PC graal and whether or not it is a possibility at all, not a pseudo-free PC graal where i have to purchase gelats (or whatever the hell they're called now) in order to change shoe color

If they don't want to attempt to think outside the box then yeah they won't be able to introduce micro-transactions.

UN has a "hat economy" right? There's nothing stopping them from flooding their shop with a bunch of custom hats for say 25-50 Gelats a pop. I'm sure they can also provide a bunch of other aesthetic items as well.

The competence of the people running the server will decide whether it becomes Free-to-play or not. Not the limited options you say they'll have.

Shards-Of-Fate · #4 03-21-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

UN has a "hat economy" right? There's nothing stopping them from flooding their shop with a bunch of custom hats for say 25-50 Gelats a pop. I'm sure they can also provide a bunch of other aesthetic items as well..

Hats?

Zodiac being the closest to an MMO has like...One of the biggest cash shop arrays. Gear, Mounts, XP Items, Aesthetics~

o_o The question is--Are the rules/requirements for being a free to play server going to change?

devilsknite1 · #5 03-21-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro

and just to emphasize the point even more - PC graal going to an item-based economy to generate revenue is not going to happen to the classic-style servers anytime soon, unless they make changing colors on bodies (for example) something you have to buy, which would be terrible. what i'm asking about is a completely free PC graal and whether or not it is a possibility at all, not a pseudo-free PC graal where i have to purchase gelats (or whatever the hell they're called now) in order to change shoe color

This is not true. UN has many ideas for "gelat items" and are currently being developed. In fact, a few are already completed.
To FP4: we have more in mind than just flashy NPCs and hats

WaDaFack · #6 03-21-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by devilsknite1

This is not true. UN has many ideas for "gelat items" and are currently being developed. In fact, a few are already completed.
To FP4: we have more in mind than just flashy NPCs and hats

Before releasing useless NPCs, why not improve the quality of the server first? So when newcomers join the server, they'll stay and maybe consider purchasing an item or two. However, if the server is total crap, why in the hell would they spend another penny on the server? Hundreds of bugs in the UN forums were posted, and barely any of them were even fixed. In fact, wtf was even the point of creating that section? For a server that has existed for almost 10years, it lacks major quality. Reason probably being the lazy, arrogant staff/developers you guys have. But that's a different topic for another time. FP4 is right, we have "flashy"/abusive hats, and a hat trade. Which is also turning to complete crap since 5 hat tickets are given out every month.
Facebook is the biggest, and fastest growing social network on the web.
Adding Graal to Facebook has to be probably one of the best advancements Eurocenter has done with Graal so far. Other than that, any news on the new Developer tools?!

Hiro · #7 03-22-2011, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by devilsknite1

This is not true. UN has many ideas for "gelat items" and are currently being developed. In fact, a few are already completed.
To FP4: we have more in mind than just flashy NPCs and hats

i could care less about the stuff that has not been developed yet. if a "item's for UN" project is underway then i really hope you choose what you make delicately. player aesthetics and other such nonsense (which UN has a plethora of) would be fine so long as it doesn't force me to buy gelats for something i need in order to participate

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

If they don't want to attempt to think outside the box then yeah they won't be able to introduce micro-transactions.

UN has a "hat economy" right? There's nothing stopping them from flooding their shop with a bunch of custom hats for say 25-50 Gelats a pop. I'm sure they can also provide a bunch of other aesthetic items as well.

The competence of the people running the server will decide whether it becomes Free-to-play or not. Not the limited options you say they'll have.

the "hat economy" is pretty rigid, and it is unfortunately the only thing going for UN in terms of spending power. i know that there are plans for hats in the works, but not in terms of them being for the "item-shop" C mentioned. making hat's purchasable with gelats is a good idea, though it tramples on EP and the point of events (since it would mean we'd have to either make the gelat purchases very small or increase the amount of EP player's have to spend). if done with care, it could work out

but really, what else does UN really have going for it other than hats and a few annoying NPCs?

Geno · #8 03-21-2011, 09:26 AM

Geno is king of facebook. therefor; king of graal.

Jiroxys7 · #9 03-21-2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

1) We are opening a Free To Play Facebook/Web version of Graal Classic and Graal Era.

But what about the bread?

dennis20014 · #10 03-21-2011, 09:29 AM

WOW. I never would of guessed Graal Facebook either.

Such an incredibly smart business move.

I hope iphone/android users least can play on the same server. May as well let FB users play on the same servers too. A huge majority of them are casual users anyway, I don't really see there being a huge advantage just because keyboard.

It's a different story for people who still play PC graal, since 99% are oldbies.