Review: Zenox and Graal Ghetto

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by alexandralove

That review is quite shocking but I can only agree.

But, anyway, I always stated one point in development, that is true for EVERYTHING:

Even if you're happy with your own results, think about the others. If they're unsatisfyed, you should always try harder and harder. There's always a way to make great things even more great. It's what I call perfectionism.

Other than that, I'm not going to make any comment about anything.

I agree.

I think Zenox might have potential if they work hard on it.

[Chompy]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

I think Zenox might have potential if they work hard on it.

I agree, so keep up the work firefighter with Zenox (:

[taylor]

Originally Posted by Chompy

I agree, so keep up the work firefighter with Zenox (:

Me 3, I agree as well.

[firefighter]

Heya
Good to hear from you guys that there arn't only negative aspects. My internet connection was broken and I hadn't much time because of school. Now I have holidays and I think, it is time, to fill Zenox with content instead of hanging up on the base systems. With only one quest and too few dungeons, baddies, items, jobs and such, the range of (inter-)actions isn't verry wide for the player yet. Also some levels and gfx dont fit as they should

[Veteranspy]

I think your review on Graal Ghetto was lacking the effort needed to look into a server. Sure they only have those colors, but thats because it is a GHETTO. Its supposed to be kind of dark and dreary, walk down a sidewalk one day could be mugged. The next, possibly killed. So think about that before hitting on the tiles. But the other things (pumpkins, webs, and trees I do agree. They were stolen by two staff who should of never been hired, trying to talk shadow into fixing that.)
*edit* Also to change from the scroll over nickname style to the one thats on all the other graal servers, you press n and go to options. Then in there you click interface. And there you have it. You can change the name stuff. Should ask around before jumping to conclusions that that is the only thing you can do.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Veteranspy

I think your review on Graal Ghetto was lacking the effort needed to look into a server. Sure they only have those colors, but thats because it is a GHETTO. Its supposed to be kind of dark and dreary, walk down a sidewalk one day could be mugged. The next, possibly killed. So think about that before hitting on the tiles. But the other things (pumpkins, webs, and trees I do agree. They were stolen by two staff who should of never been hired, trying to talk shadow into fixing that.)

Ghettos != gray. Dark and dreary != gray, dangerous != gray. There is a pattern here, I think.

[Veteranspy]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Ghettos != gray. Dark and dreary != gray, dangerous != gray. There is a pattern here, I think.

Not really quite like that, blame Mesh_P2P for all the similarities. Unfortunately for the LATs, he didn't add color to it. Its rather annoying. But still, its supposed to be shady and dark. You can't walk around a ghetto and hope to see every corner and know "Oh there is a mugger right in this alley. Let me avoid him!" So really, its tiles are decent for me to say in the least. Its not perfect, but its good enough for now. (Until Mesh gets intelligent enough to add some kind of umph to it which I hope he will soon...)

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Veteranspy

Not really quite like that, blame Mesh_P2P for all the similarities. Unfortunately for the LATs, he didn't add color to it. Its rather annoying. But still, its supposed to be shady and dark. You can't walk around a ghetto and hope to see every corner and know "Oh there is a mugger right in this alley. Let me avoid him!" So really, its tiles are decent for me to say in the least. Its not perfect, but its good enough for now. (Until Mesh gets intelligent enough to add some kind of umph to it which I hope he will soon...)

The point is, is that gray does not portray those things you want. There are better ways to convey a style of dark and shady without even using gray. You need to set up an atmosphere to do so, not just use gray. Use desaturated colors if you need to, but even so it comes from a combination of colors, lighting, atmosphere, design, concept. Were references even used?

[Veteranspy]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

The point is, is that gray does not portray those things you want. There are better ways to convey a style of dark and shady without even using gray. You need to set up an atmosphere to do so, not just use gray. Use desaturated colors if you need to, but even so it comes from a combination of colors, lighting, atmosphere, design, concept. Were references even used?

For the original Graal Ghetto, yes. For the current, no. Mesh decided he wanted it that way, which is bothersome. The new tileset is rather tricky to work with in the way that it is made specifically just for Mesh. He wanted one he liked, and didn't care about quality. But Shadow is always like "Yea omg that works I will rock with that!" so there is no kind of quality assurance.

*edit - Should you like more information I'm sure that Alfonso would be glad to help. Preferably to him, probably not. I don't work there, I just like to use an Online Editor on there. But on this subject, I'm sure only on a few topics. Others I am incapable of answering to the fullest content, sorry :S.

[DarkRenji]

Originally Posted by Veteranspy

I think your review on Graal Ghetto was lacking the effort needed to look into a server. Sure they only have those colors, but thats because it is a GHETTO. Its supposed to be kind of dark and dreary, walk down a sidewalk one day could be mugged. The next, possibly killed. So think about that before hitting on the tiles. But the other things (pumpkins, webs, and trees I do agree. They were stolen by two staff who should of never been hired, trying to talk shadow into fixing that.)
*edit* Also to change from the scroll over nickname style to the one thats on all the other graal servers, you press n and go to options. Then in there you click interface. And there you have it. You can change the name stuff. Should ask around before jumping to conclusions that that is the only thing you can do.

Shadow won't fix graal ghetto, Infact he is one of the problems...

[Rufus]