Graal Free To Play on Facebook and Android

[JesusFreak250]

i dont even have an android lol so im not too bothered

[WhiteDragon]

I think porting Graal to Facebook is a really solid choice. Good move by Eurocenter.

Now let's see the forward movement required on both Eurocenter's and the developer's part to make this successful.

[james544]

I thought you said there wouldn't be a new platform? Oh well, I guess I'll create a facebook account for graal (not my real one, wtf o.o)

[Rave_J]

ok what about the graal pc community cuz u cant tie them together so its going to be like this iphone community/pc community and then facebook community pretty much. so whats going to new for pc

[james544]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

ok what about the graal pc community cuz u cant tie them together so its going to be like this iphone community/pc community and then facebook community pretty much. so whats going to new for pc

Developer tools and Graal v6. I was expecting more, but it seems like Eurocenter is forgetting about us PC players since no one really plays it.

[SwimChao]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

ok what about the graal pc community cuz u cant tie them together so its going to be like this iphone community/pc community and then facebook community pretty much. so whats going to new for pc

From what I inferred the "Facebook community" is going to be intertwined with the "iPhone community". They're opening the iPhone servers up on Facebook.

[unixmad]

Graal iPhone and Pc Players will not play on the same servers.

Originally Posted by Rave_J

ok what about the graal pc community cuz u cant tie them together so its going to be like this iphone community/pc community and then facebook community pretty much. so whats going to new for pc

[JesusFreak250]

lol it might help promote so i cant wait!

[Switch]

I am disappointed. I came on here yesterday to see what was new and saw that you would be announcing something. "Okay, I'll come back tomorrow. Maybe it's G3D!"

I come on to see this crap. Instead of working on something already released you go and make another version of the same exact thing that probably won't have as much flexibility as the current PC Graal. You would think that a company would work to get more people attracted to an already almost-finished product rather than show off to a whole new user-base that probably won't stay for long. You would also think that they would work on something that had real potential, like Graal 3D. Nope! Instead of paying developers to make a game that many people were looking forward to and that would probably advance their game in the market, you go and make a whole new way to play, completely separate from the other ways, to open to a new user-base. Why is that? How long will those people really stay and play? After a week or two it would get so monotonous with no goal to it that people will leave. Personally, I would much rather a few Graal PC servers worked on by a real team of developers at Eurocenter that would eventually be a full game (advertised, people taking an interest, etc.) than having all of these platforms worked on by a team of PC players, thinning out developers, and playing separately with their user-base dying out soon enough. Also, instead of making this and the iPhone version only free to play, why not make PC Graal free to play with benefits you can buy (server, working on a UD server, etc.)?

tl;dr: This is crap. Eurocenter's whole business plan is crap. Whine, whine, whine.

Just my 2 cents.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Switch

I am disappointed. I came on here yesterday to see what was new and saw that you would be announcing something. "Okay, I'll come back tomorrow. Maybe it's G3D!"

I come on to see this crap. Instead of working on something already released you go and make another version of the same exact thing that probably won't have as much flexibility as the current PC Graal. You would think that a company would work to get more people attracted to an already almost-finished product rather than show off to a whole new user-base that probably won't stay for long. You would also think that they would work on something that had real potential, like Graal 3D.

G3D has no chance. There are many companies making 3D games right now with budgets of hundreds of millions of dollars for a single game. Eurocenter cannot compete, and they shouldn't try to. You're essentially saying that Graal should become an entirely different product even though they have now found a strategy that seems to work.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

G3D has no chance. There are many companies making 3D games right now with budgets of hundreds of millions of dollars for a single game. Eurocenter cannot compete, and they shouldn't try to. You're essentially saying that Graal should become an entirely different product even though they have now found a strategy that seems to work.

No I'm not. I'm saying that Graal should be improved upon as a game like Eurocenter is doing with all of the other ones. Hire a few developers to make a server that is a full game, advertise it, bring in players, invest some more in it.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Switch

No I'm not. I'm saying that Graal should be improved upon as a game like Eurocenter is doing with all of the other ones. Hire a few developers to make a server that is a full game, advertise it, bring in players, invest some more in it.

Then why are you suggesting they work on G3D? That's not an improvement, that's a totally different game.

[sssssssssss]

Originally Posted by unixmad

Here are the big News:

1) We are opening a Free To Play Facebook/Web version of Graal Classic and Graal Era.

To make Graal easy to install we have ported the Graal V6 client to Flash technology: Graal V6 client is now fully web based and can run inside the Flash Player 10 on Windows, Mac and Linux.

We are planning to give the opportunity to PlayerWorld owners to move to Free To Play either. We will soon give a list of requirements to move a server Free To Play.

Tomorrow Monday 21 March: We will open a private Beta to test Graal Classic on facebook: Some Graal staff will be invited to be part of this Beta.

Monday 28 March: We will open the Beta test to more beta testers including the 3 winners of my “guess” contest, we will also open Graal Era Facebook version.

Monday 4 April: We will open Graal Classic facebook to Graal Classic iPhone VIP Players. We will explain the iPhone VIP subscription later this week.

If everything runs smoothly with all these steps we will open more Graal Classic/Era Servers and open these servers to everyone.

2) We are releasing the new V6 client for Windows, Mac and Linux
We will release in the forthcoming weeks (First weeks of April) the new native V6 client to everyone.

3) We are releasing an Android version
The Android release will come either in April

4) New developer tools
New Developer Tools including level editor will be released in Mai and June

The Winners of the Guess contest are:
ReptarKingOfTheOZone
LordSquirt
Chompy
Winners, please contact me by mail (unixmad at graalonline.com) with your facebook ID

Please keep the thread clean and try to make creative and interesting comments.

Originally Posted by sssssssssss

I think what we all want to know is what effects us out of this from this point and the soon future. The fact of the matter is graal on facebook is an advancement for graal nonetheless, but as pc players it's a completely different platform pretty much (being as it's not the client), so unixmad if you wouldn't mind directly answering these please:

1. Will pc subscriptions change before we eventually wait for playerworlds to change, or will playerworlds be forced to change, so graal can be super cheap/free since everything else is free (iphone/andriod/facebook)?

2. Will pc players EVER be able to play on the same servers with iphone/andriod/facebook? If only some, which ones?

3. Any hint at the new developer tools? Will they help with development on iphone/andriod/facebook?

4. Why should be we hyped about v6? What changes besides some scripts and small features?

We've always felt since like 08 or longer that pc graal is going to die, and all focus pretty much on making every other platform better or free or both is making it look like pc graal is going to die even more. We've gotta have changes to subscriptions or you will lose most developers eventually, and even more players. The pc people would probably LOVE to play with the iphone/andriod/facebook people on client, and would boost the pc version in the process of expanding to other platforms, as well as developers and content.

Along with those questions, it says that it will be free to play on facebook, but you have given no date as to where us regular members can start playing for free. The last date says it will be open to iphone vip, which you say is a subscription. So when can we start playing free?

[Bell]

Originally Posted by sssssssssss

Along with those questions, it says that it will be free to play on facebook, but you have given no date as to where us regular members can start playing for free. The last date says it will be open to iphone vip, which you say is a subscription. So when can we start playing free?

He did address the timing when he said this

"If everything runs smoothly with all these steps we will open more Graal Classic/Era Servers and open these servers to everyone."

[james544]

By the way, is the Facebook version connected to the actual iPod server?