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Old 03-20-2011, 08:46 PM
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Does 'New Developer Tools' include an updated external RC with some extendability?
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i think its a great idea its just not what i expected.
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can you give us some more info on the android servers?

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Crap, #4 on the development tools, really wanted to test them out. Didn't even know people suggested, just went on the forums and threw out my ideas.
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I hate Facebook. It will probably increase the popularity of Graal, so that's cool, but I, personally, don't want to play it.


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knew it :3, kind of excited to see how this will effect us

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so question i have to ask why make pc where u have to pay u should just make it 100 percent free since we been running it with you u and stefan help ?
u guys havent update nothing on pc since 08 i think expect stefan a few scripts
why is al the other platforms free and pc verison is not ??? i think u guys should worry about pc verison since thats the main leg for graal
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so question i have to ask why make pc where u have to pay u should just make it 100 percent free since we been running it with you u and stefan help ?
u guys havent update nothing on pc since 08 i think expect stefan a few scripts
why is al the other platforms free and pc verison is not ??? i think u guys should worry about pc verison since thats the main leg for graal
If you'd read the thread: he stated that he wants PC servers to convert to free to play, but there are some requirements that they need to meet first.
Once the PC servers are free to play he will start advertising the PC version to iPhone and Facebook players.
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Free to Play is possible when server and content have been transformed to bring revenues with items and features.

Graal Classic/Era Iphone servers have been transformed to fit Free to Play.

So before switching to free to play, servers will have to introduce Pay items/heads or features.

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so question i have to ask why make pc where u have to pay u should just make it 100 percent free since we been running it with you u and stefan help ?
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why is al the other platforms free and pc verison is not ??? i think u guys should worry about pc verison since thats the main leg for graal
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Graal Classic/Era Iphone servers have been transformed to fit Free to Play.

So before switching to free to play, servers will have to introduce Pay items/heads or features.
so if u guys make pc free u would have grelat to change ur heads and stuff weapons like iphone server why not go to where 15 dollars a month for lifetime classic again or even older system where some servers u pay per month like 3 dollars and the rest is 100 percent free
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Given Zodiac and Era have already had Observer Mode removed and already employs a couple items that allow for micro-transactions what further steps will be required to go 'Free-to-Play' and will this apply to the native Graal client as well.

Do you have any plans to actually change the subscription on PC Graal? You just said it yourself:

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Which implies to me that the current subscription system is fundamentally broken and if unacceptable for the iPhone should also be considered unacceptable for the PC.
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Old 03-20-2011, 09:02 PM
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i would love to beta test the android version and facebook version.

i would be honored to apply

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Edit: reread the thread,
great work with all the new updates, can those who is interested to try "flash" graal get access?

yay @ android + new development tools!

(also, i very interested to try out the android version, i got an HTC Desire Z )
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I am happy to hear that Graal is moving into the worlds of Facebook.

Great update. I hope to start playing it soon!
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Let the haters hate. I believe that this will only create a positive effect on the PC community (in time). Facebook is such an awesome networking tool. I haven't played the iphone version of graal yet, so I can't necessarily say if it's a good or bad product; but the PC version of graal is definitely not ready to "release" to the public.

Good advertising + bad product = High playercount with constant decline
Bad advertising + good product = Low playercount with little/no decline
Good Advertising + good product = high playercount, possibly increasing each week
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i was confused sence he said either april.

so i was thinking either april or what?
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Old 03-20-2011, 09:21 PM
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And to think I was actually expecting something interesting.

Great business plan here. Just look at how retarded the average Facebook user is. Throw up some micro transactions for custom hairstyles and the money will be flowing in like crazy!

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I really hope we don't get bombarded with nameless pc:###### accounts as a result.
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I really hope we don't get bombarded with nameless pc:###### accounts as a result.
Complain to stefan and unixmad to get rid of PC's and graal#s and observer, and make it so people can actually name their "account name".
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If we get enough people on board I bet it could work
Once again, there is nothing essentially wrong with the community name system—it's used by almost every account system in existence. Assigning users a number and a display name has the advantage of easily being able to change that display name. The forums do it too. Did you know you're #6514?

The only problem with the system is that it's not well supported and it hasn't been widely adopted by servers.

Once it's been widely adopted, you would never even know you had a Graal#### account unless you were staff.
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Once again, there is nothing essentially wrong with the community name system—it's used by almost every account system in existence. Assigning users a number and a display name has the advantage of easily being able to change that display name. The forums do it too. Did you know you're #6514?

The only problem with the system is that it's not well supported and it hasn't been widely adopted by servers.

Once it's been widely adopted, you would never even know you had a Graal#### account unless you were staff.
They should sell community name changes for $10 a pop.
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