Graal Free To Play on Facebook and Android

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by MattKan

I don't know, but you do post an awful lot about the same issue and it isn't going to get you anywhere, and you're making yourself look like a fool.

The only one that's made himself look like a fool in this thread is you, and you're doing a mighty fine job at it right now.

[MattKan]

Originally Posted by NicoX

Could someone ban this idiot?

Originally Posted by ffcmike

So at what point have I insinuated that I am the only person frustrated with the lack of support?
Also I had kept my mouth shut as you put it for a very long amount of time, longer than many developers would even remain active for, and have been developing a server since before you even began playing Graal.
I think you're bark... hissing up the wrong tree here.

I would also suggest learning the difference between begging/sympathy seeking and persuasive arguments.

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

The only one that's made himself look like a fool in this thread is you, and you're doing a mighty fine job at it right now.

Originally Posted by ff7chocoboknight

:/

Fine, I'm sorry :< @ Thor and everybody else who read this thread.

[Darklux]

First of all. Thanks to the honest reply.
And to state this again: I like graal and this is no anti graal thread - the very opposite. I am an IT Professional myself and accept the fact very much, that the Game has to be profit orientated.

YET: The thing I am trying to state and many others too is, that the course PC graal is running does not seem to be a good direction, as we are loosing the playerbase - and in the end, the goal of development is to entertain you and others - yet the others seem to be running away, keeping the stiff concept that has many problems, competing with the many free to play games.

Originally Posted by Stefan

Darklux all we were doing is making Graal successful, now we have each day 3000 players online at the same time when three years ago it was only 300-400. The PC Graal version is currently lagging a little bit behind the developments in the mobile space, but it's not we are standing still.

Sadly, I cannot agree with this. The IPhone Game's only have a loose connection to PC Graal - it is not even linked on the eurocenter page anymore. The games would need to google to even notice, that there still is a PC version of this game.
There are few developments on the v6 client (yet it seemss to see no final fixing and no release).
The productivity tools for other topics than scripting have no seen development in years. If gconsctruct would have been finished, it would have been no problem with the level editor, seeing the development has ceased and its still very buggy, this is a problem.
The level editor for example only adapts very badly to the new big resolutions - still being somewhat stuck in the year 2001.

Originally Posted by Stefan

Many people on the forums don't understand that we will not get tons of players just because we reduce the price a little bit. The observer mode is needed right now to justify the playerworld gold subscription since we cannot check each day if the servers are correctly scripted or so and prices are fair. So there needs to be a "hard" limit somewhere (level cap on Zodiac) or observer mode. At some point we can transform all servers to free-to-play mode but we don't have the tools in-place right now (built-in customization shop and such stuff).

I agree that the free-to-play concept is a very big step but it seems to us - as there is no visible progress - that nothing is happening.
But I don't get why you don't use the massive player workforce on graal on this? No attempt was taken to ask us. For example, why don't you just add an api for this and enforce signed code? For example there could be an requirement for scripts touching this api to be signed by an certificate - easy protection against manipulation.

Originally Posted by Tricxta

I can say being a developer for iEra that we don't get any kind of share of the profits. We're meant to be paid 300 gelats a month as some kind of "thank you" for our contribution of time but not even that happens...
So overall, we don't get any kind of share of the profits nor "thank you". At least we don't have to pay to develop, erhmm yayy!
Being honest, I was never really in it for some kind of reward, I feel my reward is being able to contribute to a game with a semi decent player base but that's where it stops.

Maybe I have sounded a bit greedy with my last post, that was no intention. What I men't is that there seem to be 3000 active players on iGraal, spending money on the app and microtransactions - yet nothing seems to be flowing back into the PC Graal community, that has created alot of the concent - and this is the point which seems to be unfair for me.

Originally Posted by ffcmike

To further iterate my point, you simply cannot compare a limitation which allows trials to experience the game but at a disadvantage, with something which causes so much bugs and/or disruption that staff have no choice but to prevent trials from participating with events, trials automatically lose if entering observer mode while sparring or playing something like Classic's trading card game (which lasts long enough for it to be hard to avoid), or are unable to progress within a quest due to a bug directly caused by observer mode.

I think this is stating the problem quite well - as the free experience is very limited compared to the lot of free mmorpgs, many people won't even consider upgrading for this - although graal features a rich experience with cool gameplays in very different ways, so I think that Eurocenter is somehow underrating PC Graal by themselves - like I stated, it's not even linked.

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by Darklux

so I think that Eurocenter is somehow underrating PC Graal by themselves - like I stated, it's not even linked.

I actually do agree that many of their concerns have an element of truth, however it ultimately stems back to the bad decisions that have plagued the game over all this time. In a way it is failing to accept responsibility and punishing those who try to.