How-to Set Transparencies and Color Depth

[Unkownsoldier]

You sooooo made that harder than it had to be.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

You sooooo made that harder than it had to be.

Care to shed some light on your 'easy' process?

[Unkownsoldier]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Care to shed some light on your 'easy' process?

-put it into paint
-save as bmp (256)
-put the bmp in giffy "hit trans"
-put the img.gif into "gif2mng"
-trans .png there you go.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

-put it into paint
-save as bmp (256)
-put the bmp in giffy "hit trans"
-put the img.gif into "gif2mng"
-trans .png there you go.

great, but what's the point of that if irfanview will fix the color options, adjust the colors depth, and trans it all at once without the use of multiple programs?

If anything you made it slightly shorter but even more tedious.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

-put it into paint
-save as bmp (256)
-put the bmp in giffy "hit trans"
-put the img.gif into "gif2mng"
-trans .png there you go.

So you have to put it through 2 (excluding paint) different programs and end up with 3 different images before you get the finished product. Your 'easy' method sounds pretty ridiculous to me.

Where my guide has you do everything (sans drawing pixel art) in Irfanview without changing the file type, and requires no additional files.

I've also seen the method paint uses to convert images to 8-bit destroy color palettes in past.

[Unkownsoldier]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

So you have to put it through 2 (excluding paint) different programs and end up with 3 different images before you get the finished product. Your 'easy' method sounds pretty ridiculous to me.

Where my guide has you do everything (sans drawing pixel art) in Irfanview without changing the file type, and requires no additional files.

I've also seen the method paint uses to convert images to 8-bit destroy color palettes in past.

It doesn't really matter, I can get a .png transparent image in less than 30 seconds. How long does it take to get yours transparent? It doesn't really matter how its done, its annoying that you have to do anyway. So the quicker you get it done, the less annoying it is, regardless of how its done.

*if you use paint to make it is a guarantee that the color palette wont be destroyed. Or you don't even need to use paint, save it as 256 bmp in any program for all I care.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

It doesn't really matter, I can get a .png transparent image in less than 30 seconds. How long does it take to get yours transparent? It doesn't really matter how its done, its annoying that you have to do anyway. So the quicker you get it done, the less annoying it is, regardless of how its done.

*if you use paint to make it is a guarantee that the color palette wont be destroyed. Or you don't even need to use paint, save it as 256 bmp in any program for all I care.

Are you retarded? No seriously, are you retarded? Open the file with irfan, apply 1 option, and save. It takes no time or effort at all.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

It doesn't really matter, I can get a .png transparent image in less than 30 seconds. How long does it take to get yours transparent? It doesn't really matter how its done, its annoying that you have to do anyway. So the quicker you get it done, the less annoying it is, regardless of how its done.

*if you use paint to make it is a guarantee that the color palette wont be destroyed. Or you don't even need to use paint, save it as 256 bmp in any program for all I care.

Around 5 seconds, my tutorial is just thorough and explains the process completely for new users and gives them steps to help them verify they're doing it properly.

It also addresses the most typical scenario: A new player makes an edit of a head, and needs to convert it to Graal's format.

This is literally all that's done: (The check off steps only need to be done once, and then they save)

- Open image in Irfanview
- Image/decrease color depth to 256 colors
- Save as PNG, check off 'Show Options Dialog'
- Check off 'Save Transparent Color'
- Click Save, choose Transparent Color

Done.

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

You sooooo made that harder than it had to be.

Yes, but either way he did it.
There aren't many tutorials for Graal players out there.
If there are I can't find them.. At least rarely any good ones for programming...



Also, I believe Paint could set transparencies.. it took me forever to figure out how, but I believe I have... kinda just have to keep searching for the ways to do it lol.. anyway the search probably isn't worth it.. I heard gimp and paint.net are also good. In the past I use to use free trials of Paint Shop Pro 7.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2

At least rarely any good ones for programming...

Learning Java or JavaScript or PHP or another similar language is probably the easiest way to learn GScript.

Also, I believe Paint could set transparencies.. it took me forever to figure out how, but I believe I have... kinda just have to keep searching for the ways to do it lol.. anyway the search probably isn't worth it.

Paint cannot set transparencies.

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Paint cannot set transparencies.

I could have sworn I have done it once in the past.
Either way it wasn't easy and I couldn't do it again because I really don't know what I did. Searching Google now I an only find stupid replies that aren't exactly what people are asking.. So either I actually did somehow pull it off, or I imagined I did years ago.. Kind of depends on the reason I started searching for a different program like PSP7 ... I don't remember D:


Does Graal use Java, would it be helpful to learn, or are other games / websites moving away from Java, I heard CSS would be good for websites but there was something else coming out x.x;; I don't know.. hardly learned anything about CSS in class anyway..


-EDIT-
Btw, I wasn't being sarcastic, I'm sure I have imagined doing things in the past. x.x;
But I still could have sword I did it once... D:

[cbk1994]

Sorry for hijacking your thread, Jer.

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2

I could have sworn I have done it once in the past.
Either way it wasn't easy and I couldn't do it again because I really don't know what I did. Searching Google now I an only find stupid replies that aren't exactly what people are asking.. So either I actually did somehow pull it off, or I imagined I did years ago.. Kind of depends on the reason I started searching for a different program like PSP7 ... I don't remember D:

Paint cannot set transparencies. There are some conditions where pure black is treated as a transparent color by Graal, but it is not real transparency and should be avoided.

Does Graal use Java, would it be helpful to learn, or are other games / websites moving away from Java,

Graal does not use Java, but it uses a syntax which is very close to Java. JavaScript is closer to GScript since it is not strictly typed.

Java was never used for websites, although it is widely used for the serverside end of web applications (such as Gmail, Google Docs, ...). Java Applets are very rarely used now; Flash or JavaScript is preferred.

There is no widely-supported alternative to JavaScript for clientside web scripting.

I heard CSS would be good for websites but there was something else coming out x.x;; I don't know.. hardly learned anything about CSS in class anyway..

CSS is not a programming language. Cascading Style Sheets are simply style sheets that contain information on how elements should be laid out and formatted.

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Sorry for hijacking your thread, Jer.


Paint cannot set transparencies. There are some conditions where pure black is treated as a transparent color by Graal, but it is not real transparency and should be avoided.

That could be what happened, it wasn't on Graal though..

Originally Posted by cbk1994

CSS is not a programming language. Cascading Style Sheets are simply style sheets that contain information on how elements should be laid out and formatted.

Oh, I thought CSS was slowly replacing HTML.. again we didn't learn all that much on it, and I didn't get it at all.. nor did I like my website design class.. I learned more from Graal rather then pressing buttons on Dreamweaver x.x; In my opinion learning the program isn't the same as learning HTML..



Anyway, keeping to the subject, I heard Gimp and paint.net were good but I have not used either of them, and I doubt a lot of people have photoshop so there isn't much need to say how.. Or should I?

-edit-
actually if you have photoshop, and created the image in photoshop, I would think they would know how?