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Old 05-21-2010, 09:44 AM
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What's stopping you guys from being logical and giving each gang's guns identical stats?
Maybe not identical but equal.
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:05 PM
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Maybe not identical but equal.
There is not an easy way to determine if two guns are equal or not.
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Old 05-21-2010, 06:32 PM
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There is not an easy way to determine if two guns are equal or not.
Well then, make them identical with different skins, the kids won't even notice!
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:08 PM
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There is not an easy way to determine if two guns are equal or not.

You are right, because if Black Holst has a 25 damage gun, Blazian Bandits either want a 25 damage gun or a rigged 20 damage gun.

Here is what I was thinking for gang guns:

Say Black Holst has the Adv. Black Holster

Damage: 25
Fire Rate: .20 (Semi-Auto)
Freeze: .14
Spread: 0
Clip: 8 or 12.

Say Blazian Bandits has a 20 damage rifle

Damage: 20
Fire Rate: .25 (Auto)
Freeze: .08-.10
Spread: .08
Clip: 32

These seem fairly close to even, it really just depends upon player preference. If you change 1 gun (buff or nerf) you should do the same to the other gang weapons.

A lot of times people *****ed about how the BHer or the Colt6 were rigged, but that's because players learned how to use the weapon. Players actually learned the strengths and weaknesses of the weapon.

Another thing, you can't bring back gang guns and give them the same stats. If you're going to bring them back, they need to be different from each other. There would be no point to give a gang the same exact gun as another gang with the only difference being in the image and name.
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:21 PM
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leave the stats to someone who actually knows how the numbers work

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There would be no point to give a gang the same exact gun as another gang with the only difference being in the image and name.
why not? I don't see how sharing the same stats would effect the "point" of gang guns at all. It would definitely solve the balancing issues, and it would also cut back on people joining gangs only for the gang gun. Even if the stats are the same, they're still fulfilling their purpose.

Gun stats should not be what makes a gang unique...

Edit: and I'm not saying that they should be the same because I believe that they can be balanced effectively without being identical. I'm just saying that if they were, it wouldn't really be a bad thing (it certainly wouldn't make them "pointless")
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:15 AM
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Gun stats should not be what makes a gang unique...

Edit: and I'm not saying that they should be the same because I believe that they can be balanced effectively without being identical. I'm just saying that if they were, it wouldn't really be a bad thing (it certainly wouldn't make them "pointless")

I can see what you're saying. I think that's partially why the gave the Morano Thompson its violin case, or the Adv. Black Holster its flip gani. Those things did make the guns unique, but even then the gang guns were different.
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