ANNOUNCING! Global Development Team

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

People are wearing the tags on Era, and it could be abused if people think they're staff when they aren't.

"Could"? Has it been abused?

Why would you trust global staff with Global-RC, and not a global community of developers, who have been certified by global staff, but just don't have Global-RC? Hm.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Inverness

They have the power to carry out the tasks that they need to do.

But not global power, which is what I said. They are not "globals" if we take being a "global" to be having global RC. The definition is debatable, but that's not the point. They don't have powers that normal globals (PWA, etc) have, while the tag implies that they do.

Elaborate.

Is there anything to elaborate on? They don't necessarily need to be trusted as much since they aren't given any actual rights.

They are what their tag says they are, a member of the Global Development Team. The guild is not required to be on the staff list.
Global means for Graal as a whole and not any single server. Why should it matter if they have global RC or not?

The tag is misleading; they are not globals, do not have global powers, and should not necessarily be trusted as globals.

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

"Could"? Has it been abused?

Why wait for something to happen and do nothing to prevent it?

Why would you trust global staff with Global-RC, and not a global community of developers, who have been certified by global staff, but just don't have Global-RC? Hm.

Because they aren't held to the same standards as globals. If they don't have to be trusted with a global RC, then they don't necessarilyhave to be as trustworthy.


My intentions are only to prevent an abuse of the tag, not to diminish the purpose or power of the GDT. There are likely different names that wouldn't imply that they are "globals", but still work just as well. I'm not trying to attack anyone by saying they can't be trusted, but instead trying to avoid any potential problems in the future.

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Is there anything to elaborate on? They don't necessarily need to be trusted as much since they aren't given any actual rights.

Originally Posted by cbk1994

The tag is misleading; they are not globals, do not have global powers, and should not necessarily be trusted as globals.

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Because they aren't held to the same standards as globals. If they don't have to be trusted with a global RC, then they don't necessarilyhave to be as trustworthy.

I disagree with this notion. We are expected to be trustworthy enough to be given RC on an as-needed basis, without so much as a second thought that your NPCs might get stolen, deleted, etc. We do not have Global RC because we do not need it; if a problem requires RC, the server manager can decide to extend it. We are expected to be knowledgeable enough to explain to others how to do things, rather than having to log on RC and do them ourselves.

Originally Posted by cbk1994

My intentions are only to prevent an abuse of the tag, not to diminish the purpose or power of the GDT. There are likely different names that wouldn't imply that they are "globals", but still work just as well. I'm not trying to attack anyone by saying they can't be trusted, but instead trying to avoid any potential problems in the future.

The name should imply that we are globals, because for all intents and purposes we are globals. Also, you may think you're not diminishing the GDT, but you aren't exactly helping it. You're making look okay to assume that GDTs aren't anything special; don't treat them with any more trust you would anybody else asking for RC to help you. Hopefully, we're counter-acting that.

Anyways, if a GDT member abuses their tag, then report them. The point I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't automatically assume that we are held to lower trustworthiness standards than Tig, Bell, Skyld, etc. The GDT isn't an open group; we are vetted. You shouldn't automatically assume that somebody is going to waltz on Era with a GDT tag and do whatever it is that's possible to abuse it. It really shouldn't cross your mind, in my opinion. Either way, the tag is just a regular global guild tag: if you don't want it to appear in the staff section, don't put it in the serverops.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

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I'm glad I have you around to put things in better terms than I can

Dylan (LoneAngelIbesu) has made all the points I would have in response to your post, Chris.