Graals Population

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Do you honestly have any intention of ever playing Graal as a game again? I don't think you do, and it's the same for a lot of developers.

I don't see how that really matters in this instance

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I don't see how that really matters in this instance

If you have no interest in playing Graal as a game, why would you be interested in a new server? A new server would not necessarily need new tools, which is what people are trying to express here.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Rufus

If you have no interest in playing Graal as a game, why would you be interested in a new server? A new server would not necessarily need new tools.

Of course a developer is going to favor new developer tools. However I also started in the post you quoted that I wouldn't mind it either way. Whether Stefan develops a server or just development tools, it's going to go in my favor.

However, whether I'd play a new server is hard to say... just because I develop doesn't mean I have no interest. I do still play games -- Zelda being one of them as well. Graal has just had nothing to offer me in a long time.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Of course a developer is going to favor new developer tools. However I also started in the post you quoted that I wouldn't mind it either way. Whether Stefan develops a server or just development tools, it's going to go in my favor.

However, whether I'd play a new server is hard to say... just because I develop doesn't mean I have no interest. I do still play games -- Zelda being one of them as well. Graal has just had nothing to offer me in a long time.

it hasn't had anything to offer to anyone in a long time - which is why we need new content, not new tools for making content. why were you even arguing with me in the first place if you don't care since it will benefit you anyways? wouldn't you want the benefits that also benefit all of us?

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Hiro

it hasn't had anything to offer to anyone in a long time - which is why we need new content, not new tools for making content. why were you even arguing with me in the first place if you don't care since it will benefit you anyways? wouldn't you want the benefits that also benefit all of us?

Because it needs both. Graal is not strictly a game. It is also a development platform, at least it advertises itself as such. Right now it seems people paying for servers are the ones paying the most. They have to upgrade their accounts AND pay for a server. Sure, Graal is a game and that can't be forgotten, however people are also paying for it as a development platform and to exclude all of them would be dumb. As long as people are paying to develop, they are just as much customers as the players.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Because it needs both. Graal is not strictly a game. It is also a development platform, at least it advertises itself as such. Right now it seems people paying for servers are the ones paying the most. They have to upgrade their accounts AND pay for a server. Sure, Graal is a game and that can't be forgotten, however people are also paying for it as a development platform and to exclude all of them would be dumb. As long as people are paying to develop, they are just as much customers as the players.

so the people who pay the most money should get the most updates, the most focus, and the better quality of game, even though they are the vast minority type of player and, at this point, haven't created anything

oh yea, graal is finished if we keep that attitude, absolutely done for

[salesman]

Graal's "popular" servers were all made by players.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Hiro

so the people who pay the most money should get the most updates, the most focus, and the better quality of game, even though they are the vast minority type of player and, at this point, haven't created anything

oh yea, graal is finished if we keep that attitude, absolutely done for

Who said they should get the most updates? I just said it needs updates too.