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Old 07-02-2009, 12:35 AM
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okay, but that doesn't invalidate my point at all, it still stands that it's going to be useless for most every player, and new development tools aren't going to bring in more players, agreed?

now imagine how excited we'd all be about the updates if stefan was announcing a new server
And how will Stefan make these great updates without updated tools?
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:56 AM
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And how will Stefan make these great updates without updated tools?
how will it be any better than making them right now? are you saying that stefan is incapable of making content because of the outdated tools he's trying to use?
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how will it be any better than making them right now? are you saying that stefan is incapable of making content because of the outdated tools he's trying to use?
Outdated tools = outdated content. He could make much better content with more updated tools.
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:43 AM
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Outdated tools = outdated content. He could make much better content with more updated tools.
so content built with outdated tools /= fun? or more specifically, old/boring content > new content built with "outdated tools"?

if you're going to argue for better tools, then i guess you must be a huge fan of the success that is graal3d? because that uses such a better system for creation, such more sophistication in development, just about every developer is trying to create things for graal3d right?

i mean seriously, get your priorities straight.
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if you're going to argue for better tools, then i guess you must be a huge fan of the success that is graal3d? because that uses such a better system for creation, such more sophistication in development, just about every developer is trying to create things for graal3d right?
From what I've gathered, a lot of developers (myself included) is against Graal 3D, so I'm not sure what you're basing your opinion over. Graal 3D isn't even actively being worked on, Stefan posted himself that it was more or less an "experiment" on CJ's side.
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From what I've gathered, a lot of developers (myself included) is against Graal 3D, so I'm not sure what you're basing your opinion over. Graal 3D isn't even actively being worked on, Stefan posted himself that it was more or less an "experiment" on CJ's side.
yea, i know, i was being sarcastic because it was an utter failure no matter which way you look at it, but it did happen to use more up to date tools
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so content built with outdated tools /= fun? or more specifically, old/boring content > new content built with "outdated tools"?

if you're going to argue for better tools, then i guess you must be a huge fan of the success that is graal3d? because that uses such a better system for creation, such more sophistication in development, just about every developer is trying to create things for graal3d right?

i mean seriously, get your priorities straight.
lol, you really are making assumptions here.
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