Extra! Extra! Application for News Administrator!

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

i don't even know why he was given the moderator position. first, we all know that he's two-faced, as a lot of us have been saying in this thread. next, he makes a rule against abbreviations. he then gets hired, there's an uproar, and he's been deleting posts unfairly.

If you have problems with my moderation forum PM me. You always say I make a rule against abbreviation, however I made a rule and it was removed. Darlene initially approved all of those rules, but it was only after you all made an uproar it was removed. It was made because some users were using abbreviations to attack others while some users were acting usually abbreviations for logical purposes. Basically, I had a basis for my actions.

Originally Posted by Rufus

How many servers have you played Supernanny?

I've played Era, Sands of Glory (If that counts), GK, Zone, Symphonia, Esteria. Those would be servers I know I have at least 50 hours if not more on. Servers I've just tried would be Zodiac, Classic, Valikorlia, Unholy Nation, and Maloria.

Originally Posted by Clockwork

Same could be said about you though, I have noticed a huge personality change in you ever since you've joined maloria (or perhaps you were just attempting to manipulate me in the past?).

You guys seem to think my whole goal in life is to manipulate others. This is not true. You make it sound like I say to myself,"Hmmm. Who shall I manipulate today? Oh I'll manipulate that guy! He seems stupid!" That is entirely not the case, and those of you who know me from working with me on Zone actually know me. I don't think any of you who have interacted with me on a non daily basis outside of Zone know me well enough to judge me. That is because I would consider know being to interact with and see me on a day to day basis.

Originally Posted by Crono

Yes you do enjoy it. You used to always AIM me years ago about the most random stuff that's going on and would always ask me for my opinion on it. Last year or so you were constantly gossiping about Dan and talking behind his back while working for him on Zone. I'm sure you turned around and did the same against us to Dan as well and don't try to deny it because Rufus and I both have the chat logs to prove it.

So you admit that I was interested in what was going on? That I would ask for other people I respected for their opinions?

I didn't gossip about Dan or talk behind his back. Dan knows I have had problems with his management style. You are Rufus are both capable of creating chat logs. I wouldn't past Rufus to make even more rude and insulting remarks past the remarks he has already made.

Originally Posted by Crono

You're nothing but a fake. Your personalities are fake, most of what you say is fake (because it's been twisted to favor whoever you're speaking to), and everything about you screams "fake".

I disagree. I'm an honest person and people who have actually interacted with me know that.

Originally Posted by Crono

This writer doesn't care for unique, this writer prefers quality originality in favor of unique. This writer believes pooper200000's writing was not creaitive at all but rather cliche and what this writer expected to see from this forum.

I think this is what it all comes down to. No one will ever be good enough to meet your or Rufus' standards. This is why interesting projects such as Bomy Island will never be completed. The projects can be done right, but they will never meet up to your and Rufus' standards. You are both so focused on having perfection that can't always be achieved. You choose to focus on the problems in everything created instead of providing any positive interest in such a topic.

Originally Posted by Crono

HOW CAN A SNITCH BE TRUSTWORTHY LOL, think about what you said again as I don't think you know what a snitch is.

Perhaps you can explain exactly what a snitch is since I obviously seem to have the wrong impression?

Originally Posted by Crono

You constantly sucked up to Huwajux and myself, never leaving our sides in 2005. You were actually becomming quite annoying as you were constantly "on us". If Huwa still posted he could probably vouch for my point.

I disagree. I never did leave your sides. I didn't suck up, I asked questions; I stated my opinions. I may have been annoying but I learned from you. Your post proves I am consistent and persistent in doing what I think is right. This only further proves my capability for such a position.

Originally Posted by Crono

You've always gossiped to me, and don't act like your interaction with Rufus and myself is the first time you've spoken to me. I've known you way before Bomy Island was around and I know how you are.

No, my interactions with Rufus and yourself aren't the first time I've spoken with either of you. However my interactions are not broad as you also seem to portray them to be. You thought you knew me from before Bomy Island, but you were too focused on doing things I disagreed with. I disagreed because I didn't think such topics were acceptable, such as abuse as a Zone ET. Therefore, you don't know me like you make it out to be.

Originally Posted by Crono

All you did was talk to Rufus and I about how much you weren't happy with Dan and pretended to side with us. Then on the other hand you would do the same for Dan. It's not surprising really as you've always been this way.

No, it wasn't all I did. I focused on developing for Zone debug. I worked as a FAQ on Zone. I constantly hosted events. You make it out like I did nothing, but all I did was state my opinions when asked. You really don't know me at all, because we never got along. Don't act like there isn't a history that you created between us because of your dislike of my curiosity.

Originally Posted by Crono

Give some examples of Rufus and myself drawing "far off conclusions for just about everything". Really, do it. Just because we're realistic and tell it like it is doesn't mean we try to be negative. It means we're honest, a concept you have yet to grasp.

I don't feel the need to point out and give attention to negativity. I will point out that I am having an extreme amount of difficult finding any positive posts made by Rufus. You call Rufus a realist, but surely a realist would understand the impact they have had.

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I have to admit that I have seen this side of Supernanny. He can be quite 2 faced at times but that still shouldn't stop him from getting this job if they hire him.

While I don't want to delve into this, you saw me that way because I had a problem with you. I didn't agree with how you carried out your position and I wasn't afraid to tell Dan, or anyone for that matter, that I didn't like how you were performing your duties.

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

@SN: Remember I have seen this side of you when you got let go a few times from zone. You were bashing the higher staff pretty bad so don't pretend your a saint. Your far from it. Still hope you get the job tho.

Yes, all the times I was let go. Lets go through this time.
I was angry when I was removed as ET over my spring break, as I had e-mailed Dan about my vacation months in advance.

Raven you know it as well as I, I am not afraid to tell someone if I have a problem with them. I did tell you problems that I deduced with my analysis. I'm not a saint, I would totally agree.

Originally Posted by Deeek

You're missing the point, man. Your qualifications for this position are considerable, yeah. So what? Anyone and their dog can report news. If you're going to be disliked then people who dislike you aren't going to do what you want - that is, read your news. That makes you useless.
From what I've read in this thread, I seriously hope you don't get this position.

People who have problems with me have addressed their problems, but just as they have addressed their problems, I believe those same people would read the news. Those people would look for errors they would not find, because I do a good job.

If people didn't care or think I don't have the potential to be able to perform the position, they would have stated their point once and would have left it at that. Those viewing the applications could then take their points into consideration. However some people find it necessary to continually reply and they continually reply because they know that there is another side, the correct side, that I am presenting. If it isn't because they know I'm providing the correct analysis, why would it be necessary for anyone to remake their points multiple times?

Ah I would like to point this out as well. You seem to have the impression that if you are disliked people will not read the news. Would the same hold true for this application? It currently has the most views of any of the applications (883) and if people didn't like me, why would they find it necessary to view and reply to the posts in this thread? Even if people don't like me, it is apparent that they care if I have the position because they have viewed this thread.

The reason I believe this thread got as many views as it did is because it is a good application and has gained attention. Even those who criticize me say that I created a good application. The other reason I got my application is because there are those who dislike me and have stated there reasons for why they believe I shouldn't be given the position. I've replied and responded to these complaints, as I believe many of them have a false basis on which they were made.

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

The reason I believe this thread got as many views as it did is because it is a good application and has gained attention.

I'm not taking a side here, but you can't be that naive. People have viewed this thread for the same reason I have: it keeps showing up as having new posts.

I do not believe that it matters who writes the news, so long as it written in a way I like. On client, I do not know who writes the news. On the news pages on the wiki, I do not know who writes the news. The only to know who writes the news is to go in to the page's history, and if I care that much, then I'm just an immature idiot.

This "News Administrator" is just a fluff position. No extra authority is granted, aside from the possibility that the person gets a global RC with the amazing power of chatting. It's grunt work that anybody with the right subscription could do, but doesn't really want to do. I believe that the only reason people have applied for the position is because they want to have an official title, because that's the only thing separating those people from any regular person adding news.

In short: all this fit throwing and arguing is over nothing, really. It doesn't matter who writes the news, because (1) the news doesn't depend on who's writing it, and (2) you'll never see the persons name unless you go looking for it. How many people actually read the news, anyways? I know I don't.

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

I'm not taking a side here, but you can't be that naive. People have viewed this thread for the same reason I have: it keeps showing up as having new posts.

I'd like to point out more to this post. I'm not being naive, however I'm ignoring that obvious reason. Of course people will view the thread that shows first, but people continued to view it when it was not the thread on top. The reasons this thread kept getting posted in was because people had something to say about it. The reason the thread was viewed was because it was posted in. It is circular logic.

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

I do not believe that it matters who writes the news, so long as it written in a way I like. On client, I do not know who writes the news. On the news pages on the wiki, I do not know who writes the news. The only to know who writes the news is to go in to the page's history, and if I care that much, then I'm just an immature idiot.

It is good to have one consistent person who has the title.

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

This "News Administrator" is just a fluff position. No extra authority is granted, aside from the possibility that the person gets a global RC with the amazing power of chatting. It's grunt work that anybody with the right subscription could do, but doesn't really want to do. I believe that the only reason people have applied for the position is because they want to have an official title, because that's the only thing separating those people from any regular person adding news/

I think that you pose a good question. If this is a helper position will this person be granted additional rights?
I'd rather see someone who lacks rights so they aren't able to abuse rights.

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

In short: all this fit throwing and arguing is over nothing, really. It doesn't matter who writes the news, because (1) the news doesn't depend on who's writing it, and (2) you'll never see the persons name unless you go looking for it. How many people actually read the news, anyways? I know I don't.

The news does depend who is writing it. Some people have different perspectives, and some news may be more interesting because of the writer's style. The person's name does not matter.

I know I read the news because I like to know what is going on with Graal. I've always had an interest in what is going on globally and I think it would be good if this helper position was hired. Hiring the helper position might help to get more news posted for some servers.

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

The news does depend who is writing it. Some people have different perspectives, and some news may be more interesting because of the writer's style. The person's name does not matter.

I read news articles all the time. I don't have a favorite reporter. This is because all reporters generally report the news the same, and that's because the news itself does not depend on the reporter. It's text, guys.

If you get the job, all you're meant to do is condense a server's news down to a paragraph and take a screenshot, because most people aren't going to give more than a passing glance before double-clicking the server they play on. If UN gets a new spar arena, you say that UN got a new spar arena. The importance of originality is little to none, and it's a huge waste of time.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

I read news articles all the time. I don't have a favorite reporter. This is because all reporters generally report the news the same, and that's because the news itself does not depend on the reporter. It's text, guys.

If you get the job, all you're meant to do is condense a server's news down to a paragraph and take a screenshot, because most people aren't going to give more than a passing glance before double-clicking the server they play on. If UN gets a new spar arena, you say that UN got a new spar arena. The importance of originality is little to none, and it's a huge waste of time.

News needs to be entertaining and informative though, especially on a game. I agree it needs some level of consistency however.

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by Rufus

News needs to be entertaining and informative though, especially on a game. I agree it needs some level of consistency however.

The news appearing on the Login server needs to be short and concise. Originality and entertainment are best saved for reviews and advertisements. If this application is any indication of what's to be expected for news articles, then I think that it's a huge waste of time.

News articles are best kept like this:

Originally Posted by http://graal.net/index.php/News#February

Unholy Nation: CS



Unholy Nation is in the middle of a long-term developmental projects. We're going to be releasing some small term activities for the players to interact with while it's being worked on. Come on and check them out:

• We'll be hosting a level competition that will go hand-in-hand with the "re-stock" of the hat shop. Come around to get details.
• "CS" - CS is an old gun game customized to UN is brought back with new levels, arenas and style of game play. Check it out north of Town Center in the Auction house's old building
• Swear filter is now toggle-able. It was a controversial subject, and if you don't mind seeing the swears you can toggle it on or off accordingly.
• Seaport is the long term dev project that was never finished. We plan on finishing it soon for release, it will incorporate a new quest for you all to play though. We're going to take a different approach, however.

Though, considering I don't ever read the news on Graal, my opinion may be skewed.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

The news appearing on the Login server needs to be short and concise. Originality and entertainment are best saved for reviews and advertisements. If this application is any indication of what's to be expected for news articles, then I think that it's a huge waste of time.

News articles are best kept like this:



Though, considering I don't ever read the news on Graal, my opinion may be skewed.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

The news appearing on the Login server needs to be short and concise. Originality and entertainment are best saved for reviews and advertisements. If this application is any indication of what's to be expected for news articles, then I think that it's a huge waste of time.

Then news need to be appealing and almost artistic. The point of the news is to draw attention to the server. A bland, cut and paste overview of some update isn't going to draw in crowds.

[Deeek]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

I read news articles all the time. I don't have a favorite reporter. This is because all reporters generally report the news the same, and that's because the news itself does not depend on the reporter. It's text, guys.

So, which would you pick: CNN, or FOX?

Christ, guys, it's really not that hard. Are you going to sit and listen to a crazed hobo give you the news?

Originally Posted by pooper200000

In response to the abbreviations rule, it was because of multiple instances of it being abused. It wasn't just words like QFT, much like Frankie said. There were a lot of abbreviations being used at the time, and some people were even taking those abbreviations (Such as QFT) as harassment because they thought it was a personal attack on them because of the differing definitions.

Basically just a reiteration of what I said before, and twisted around a bit. Personally I think you're insane for making rules against acronyms. They're a common part of the English language. Hell, I used a couple in this post! Just because you don't know what one is or might be frightened of it doesn't mean you should make a rule against it. I certainly won't expect any in your news!

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

If you have problems with my moderation forum PM me. You always say I make a rule against abbreviation, however I made a rule and it was removed. Darlene initially approved all of those rules, but it was only after you all made an uproar it was removed. It was made because some users were using abbreviations to attack others while some users were acting usually abbreviations for logical purposes. Basically, I had a basis for my actions.

actually, i was reading our pm history about that rule, and you were being arrogant. i had good points, and you had arrogant points. you were making up a completely different meaning for 'QFT'.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

actually, i was reading our pm history about that rule, and you were being arrogant. i had good points, and you had arrogant points. you were making up a completely different meaning for 'QFT'.

Uh, I have seen that used many, many times meaning something besides "quoted for truth"(not sure of the meaning on the forums)
At any rate, Supernanny had good intentions when he suggested the abbreviation rule, and I perfectly understand why he suggested it, even though it is not applied. You can't tell in what way someone is meaning "QFT" when they use it.
I didn't feel that bad abbreviations were used enough on the forums to make a rule against them in the end.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Uh, I have seen that used many, many times meaning something besides "quoted for truth"(not sure of the meaning on the forums)
At any rate, Supernanny had good intentions when he suggested the abbreviation rule, and I perfectly understand why he suggested it, even though it is not applied. You can't tell in what way someone is meaning "QFT" when they use it.

I'm pretty sure that quote for truth is all that it means on forums

I didn't feel that bad abbreviations were used enough on the forums to make a rule against them in the end.

Wow what

At any rate, Supernanny had good intentions

Everyone has pretty good intentions, that doesn't mean it's not stupid.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Uh, I have seen that used many, many times meaning something besides "quoted for truth"(not sure of the meaning on the forums)
At any rate, Supernanny had good intentions when he suggested the abbreviation rule, and I perfectly understand why he suggested it, even though it is not applied. You can't tell in what way someone is meaning "QFT" when they use it.
I didn't feel that bad abbreviations were used enough on the forums to make a rule against them in the end.

i have never seen 'qft' used for anything other than 'quoted for truth'.

[Deeek]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Uh, I have seen that used many, many times meaning something besides "quoted for truth"(not sure of the meaning on the forums)
At any rate, Supernanny had good intentions when he suggested the abbreviation rule, and I perfectly understand why he suggested it, even though it is not applied. You can't tell in what way someone is meaning "QFT" when they use it.
I didn't feel that bad abbreviations were used enough on the forums to make a rule against them in the end.

Wow, really? So basically this rule was invented out of ignorance?

Hey, let's make a new rule: "Ban everything that Supernanny doesn't know about because he is ignorant and ignorance is not cool "

[Deeek]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

People who have problems with me have addressed their problems

Yeah, but have you actually listened to these problems? Apparently not (from what I'm reading). Listening is a good skill to have for this job, you know...

but just as they have addressed their problems, I believe those same people would read the news.

I'm sure they would have to read it if it was pasted in front of their faces every minute they're in game. Willfully? Doubtful.

Those people would look for errors they would not find, because I do a good job.

Your arrogance is silly. Good writers make mistakes. Bad writers refuse to see these mistakes.

If people didn't care or think I don't have the potential to be able to perform the position, they would have stated their point once and would have left it at that. Those viewing the applications could then take their points into consideration. However some people find it necessary to continually reply and they continually reply because they know that there is another side, the correct side, that I am presenting.

Your self-delusion only widens the gaping fallacy of your argument. Your opinion is, at least, subjective. Let's look at it this way - if your side was correct then would most of the people in this thread be arguing with you? "You're wrong because I'm right" isn't going to cut it. You have to present reason. Assuming that the everyone else in here is stupid isn't helping

If it isn't because they know I'm providing the correct analysis, why would it be necessary for anyone to remake their points multiple times?

Read what I said above. Think really hard. Repeat, if necessary

Ah I would like to point this out as well. You seem to have the impression that if you are disliked people will not read the news. Would the same hold true for this application?

This is a forum. People are going to say what they want irregardless of wether or not they like you

It currently has the most views of any of the applications (883) and if people didn't like me, why would they find it necessary to view and reply to the posts in this thread? Even if people don't like me, it is apparent that they care if I have the position because they have viewed this thread.

This is a forum. If threads on here have any considerable amount of activity to them people are going to flock to them like moths to a lamp. The majority of posts that I'm seeing here are replies to your arguments. If you've been here for a while you'd know that this is nothing special in this forum.
You're not really listening to what I'm saying anyways so I'll make this short- Why am I going to read your news if I don't like you? Simple: I'm not going to read your news if I don't trust you. Slander, bias, sources, etc. Can I take your word? Prove to me that I can trust you when you've proven to be two-faced.