Graal iPhone/iPod: Will be released on Apple AppStore!

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

The part where Cyberjoueurs isn't told that they made a corrupt, horrible, ugly, useless game. And that they should listen to Cali at all times. /sarcasm

It's CJ's fault the game was unfinished when sent to Apple. Sure, complete by their standards, but not by Apple's. I suppose they lowered their standards, or Cj made changes, who knows, point is, CJ screwed up by sending them a game that most people would consider unfinished.

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

It's CJ's fault the game was unfinished when sent to Apple. Sure, complete by their standards, but not by Apple's. I suppose they lowered their standards, or Cj made changes, who knows, point is, CJ screwed up by sending them a game that most people would consider unfinished.

Since you're obviously the expert on these things, care to explain to us how Cyberjoueurs are supposed to know exactly what Apple are going to say when they submit a product for inspection?

The fact is that it's down to chance as much as anything; a team will review the software and if that specific group of people decide on the day that it isn't acceptable, that's it. It won't get released, and the little people have no grounds to argue with that. You can't blame Cyberjoueurs; they submitted what they honestly believed was an acceptable product. :/

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

It's CJ's fault the game was unfinished when sent to Apple. Sure, complete by their standards, but not by Apple's. I suppose they lowered their standards, or Cj made changes, who knows, point is, CJ screwed up by sending them a game that most people would consider unfinished.

Why are you trying to defend Apple in this?

The Apple Store HAS had a lot of glitches, it's very plausible that it was a glitch that Graal Zone even got in.

[Crimson2005]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Why are you trying to defend Apple in this?

Because he's a silly fanboy. Apple can do no wrong in his eyes.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

It's CJ's fault the game was unfinished when sent to Apple. Sure, complete by their standards, but not by Apple's. I suppose they lowered their standards, or Cj made changes, who knows, point is, CJ screwed up by sending them a game that most people would consider unfinished.

The way I look at it is CJ could either sit on their butts wondering if it was good enough to submit, or they could take a chance, and if not accepted, make changes and try again.
It's like that saying, "You never know until you try"

You try, you fail, you pull yourself up & brush yourself off, and try again

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

The way I look at it is CJ could either sit on their butts wondering if it was good enough to submit, or they could take a chance, and if not accepted, make changes and try again.
It's like that saying, "You never know until you try"

You try, you fail, you pull yourself up & brush yourself off, and try again

Or they could, like most other games, do testing.

I just don't get why they didn't test it before sending it to apple. It's the kind of mistake young developers make for their playerworlds and the PWA coming in for inspections.

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Or they could, like most other games, do testing.

They did, and this goes to show how little you know about the situation.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Skyld

They did, and this goes to show how little you know about the situation.

Well, judging from the response, any chance the test group was composed of the usual suspects, as opposed to randomly chosen people?

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Or they could, like most other games, do testing.
I just don't get why they didn't test it before sending it to apple. It's the kind of mistake young developers make for their playerworlds and the PWA coming in for inspections.

I'm sure they did testing on their own Iphone. Just because they didn't open the testing to certain Graal players doesn't mean they didn't test the product. Graal submitted what they thought was an easy to use product. However, some customers were not able to understand the controls. I'm sure that Cyberjoueurs intends to change the product accordingly based on the helpful customer reviews. I don't think you can assume just because Cyberjoueur's product was not perfect that they purposely intended to create a product that was much less than perfect.
[SARCASM]I mean Cyberjoueurs is definitely out to get everyone by creating a bad product. I'm sure they intended to add every single glitch or bug.[/SARCASM]
Seriously, grow up.

They created the Graal Zone, and Graal Zone+ for the Ipod based upon their own assessments of the Ipod touch and Iphone. They did the same thing with the poker and it was a success.

It does not make a difference if you do not agree with how they handled the situation. Who cares if you can place the blame? You can place the blame all you want, but Cyberjoueurs could be improving their product. I don't understand what your whole Graal is out to piss everyone off attitude, but it is getting very very old. I'm sure just from reading a few of your posts on the forums that you disagree with just about everything Graal has done, although I'm sure you do like some things, you just don't like the way some actions are being carried out. You aren't alone, but you could at least look at the positive side. Graal was trying to gain more customers and money by creating a product for the Iphone. They didn't make a fool proof product and there were some bad reviews. Based upon the reviews they can make revisions in the product and improve it for the customers. Is this such a huge issue that you must continue to rant about it?

Just because they didn't open it up to random testers, and had those people that they trust to help review the product doesn't mean they didn't help find or spot bugs. If they didn't have randomly chosen participants so what.. Stop placing the blame and try to find some solutions and positive input.