PRE-FINALIZED DISCUSSION: Playerworld Rules

[Frankie]

I would just hope that the massing problem is fixed so staff off tag do not override the ignore instead of just telling staff to stop massing. Servers like Era and Zodiac that revolve around an economy of items and money, people mass message to buy and sell things. Staff play the game so that means staff will most likely have items and money they want to trade and sending out a mass message is the best way to advertise your trades.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Loriel

How about you come up with a decent scripted buying-and-selling system instead of making people rely on masses?

No system is going to cut down on mass messages. Take Era's mall for example, instead of people massing out "Selling: these items. Buying: these items." It turns into "Selling these items at my mall stand, cheap, come check it out!"

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Nobody is making people rely on mass messages.

You mean Era has another way of advertising across the whole server?

Originally Posted by Frankie

No system can replace mass messages.

That seems a bit ignorant to say.

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by Inverness

That seems a bit ignorant to say.

What he's saying seems pretty right to me. Even if there's a shop GUI (for instance) that lists items that people are selling, people aren't going to stop advertising that they're selling stuff. Telling staff to outright not mass things like that is a workaround, and workarounds are for lazy people.

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Frankie

No system is going to cut down on mass messages. Take Era's mall for example, instead of people massing out "Selling: these items. Buying: these items." It turns into "Selling these items at my mall stand, cheap, come check it out!"

"No system can do $foo. Take my system for example, it sucks." is not great logic >:o

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Loriel

"No system can do $foo. Take my system for example, it sucks." is not great logic >:o

ur right man. who do these friggin local stupid server staff think they are. damn teenage weekend game makers.

one of them should just stop being so lazy and make an artificially intelligent system that provides the same functionality as a mass message coupled with the existing /itemtrade command:
- let majority of the server know almost instantly, from whereever they are, that you're selling items
- let players make offers on items that may include:

~ money only
~ items only
~ any combination of money or items

- decide which deal is the best for the player
- accept the deal and transfer the items almost instantly between the players whereever they are on the server

sounds a lot easier than just making masses not override when u dont want them to anyway right?

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

ur right man. who do these friggin local stupid server staff think they are. damn teenage weekend game makers.

one of them should just stop being so lazy and make an artificially intelligent system that provides the same functionality as a mass message coupled with the existing /itemtrade command:
- let majority of the server know almost instantly, from whereever they are, that you're selling items
- let players make offers on items that may include:

~ money only
~ items only
~ any combination of money or items

- decide which deal is the best for the player
- accept the deal and transfer the items almost instantly between the players whereever they are on the server

sounds a lot easier than just making masses not override when u dont want them to anyway right?

Yea, if you went off the system I mentioned earlier, it wouldn't be difficult to add a feature that would notify you as soon as something you want appears on the market.

I don't think you're doing good at being sarcastic seeing how that's all possible with a bit of effort. Plus it would be better than masses anyways.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Yea, if you went off the system I mentioned earlier, it wouldn't be difficult to add a feature that would notify you as soon as something you want appears on the market.

I don't think you're doing good at being sarcastic seeing how that's all possible with a bit of effort. Plus it would be better than masses anyways.

It's all possible without any effort as well, since it can easily be achieved via mass messaging and the existing simple trade system.

I can tell you now that I personally won't be enforcing that rule. My staff shouldn't be disallowed from doing something so basic simply because they want to help develop the server.

If you're being contrary for the sake of being contrary then **** off.
But if you honestly support staff messages overriding the disable mass messages option when staff are off tag then state your reasons for supporting it.