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Old 07-26-2008, 02:12 AM
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The former takes time, while the latter saves time in most cases. What is the point in 50-odd playerworlds all scripting the same generic systems (most of the time) when they could be focusing on their server-specific scripting.
I agree with what you said, and in addition, learning from openly available scripts that are actually useful for a playerworld is going to be worth more than learning from random gimmick scripts.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:17 AM
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The former takes time, while the latter saves time in most cases. What is the point in 50-odd playerworlds all scripting the same generic systems (most of the time) when they could be focusing on their server-specific scripting.
That's just completely opposite of the entire purpose of providing scripts to help people learn. People already copy and paste examples, and you're saying that they should be able to have a copy and paste server? You know as well as any other that if you provide a newbie scripter with completed code, they aren't going to bother to learn what the code does.

A project like this would (a) provide examples of coding techniques and (b) provide a useful, extra feature to the Graal client. What's so bad about that? If you think providing baddy scripts is useful, then go ahead and do it. Why say that something like this shouldn't happen just because it doesn't provide any core server systems?
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:41 AM
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I agree with Loriel, try replicating the defaults that Stefan wont release so playerworlds have that rather than the generally untouchable, or some decent baddies.
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:08 AM
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I want a baddy script so I don't have to try to make it myself.
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:24 AM
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I want a baddy script so I don't have to try to make it myself.
Agreed.
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Old 07-26-2008, 05:01 AM
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I want a baddy script so I don't have to try to make it myself.
I don't want to reinvent the wheel.

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You know as well as any other that if you provide a newbie scripter with completed code, they aren't going to bother to learn what the code does.
They'll learn their lesson when it's time to maintain the code and they realize that they can't fix anything.

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I wanted to do that with Mythic, I even had a thread with all scripts in it. But, I killed that idea when graal.net crashed and took them all with it. I might see myself doing it again in the future, undecided at this point.
Do it!
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Old 07-26-2008, 05:15 AM
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I don't want to reinvent the wheel.
But, in the case of baddies, Graal changed the roads. We need a new wheel.
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^ The exact reason why entire servers shouldn't be made open-source.
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:33 AM
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^ The exact reason why entire servers shouldn't be made open-source.
What post is that responding to?
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Old 07-26-2008, 05:04 PM
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^ The exact reason why entire servers shouldn't be made open-source.
Baddies are typically very complex scripts and few have the ability to make them. It would benefit Graal as a whole if there was an open-source modular baddie script that servers could use and customize to fit their server.

If I ever get around to making a baddie it will most definitely be open source.
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:36 AM
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The one above it. Inverness'.
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:52 AM
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The one above it. Inverness'.
In that case, it is a pretty bad reason.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:03 AM
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In that case, it is a pretty bad reason.
Why do you think that? If we work together to script something and it's released for Graal as a whole, posting the code only helps people learn. If we script a server and release the code, we're only providing copy/paste systems.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:29 AM
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Apologies, I didn't know this "community scripting project" was to help people learn.
It wasn't until I suggested it...

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If anything the community should focus on something that is actually useful to most playerworlds or people wanting to create playerworlds, or on just documentation/learning material.
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We could document the entire project and release the scripts as open-source.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:41 AM
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How about you all just make your own server together (NOT SEPARATE, TOGETHER!)
And with a good idea it could actually go somewhere >.>
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