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[Shakram]

development should be for free =/
i understand that the people have to pay for the servers but why have people to pay if they want to work on a server ...
if development servers would be free for staff and you can even develop with a new account without subscription graal would be much better :O
there are a lot of talented people (graphic artists , scripters...) who could help graal to become a very good mmo but i understand if they dont want to pay to help a mmo to become better ...

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Shakram

development should be for free

We are thinking of adding ways that staff get some percentage of gelats made with server items, that way you could at least pay you own subscription or even development servers.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Googi

A console game is pretty good if you get 40 hours out of it. You easily get more than that out of Graal.

The amount of time you get out of a game does not usually constitute as a reason for high pricing alone. Not one current server provides 40 hours of gameplay anyway other than Zodiac, unless you include idling a form of gameplay, which can be done on most console games anyway.

Originally Posted by Stefan

We are thinking of adding ways that staff get some percentage of gelats made with server items, that way you could at least pay you own subscription or even development servers.

This is a huge can of worms. Who would be put in charge of the distribution of gelats, the local managers? I can hear it now..

"..but a manager doesn't do anything, we do more work than him how can he decide on who gets gelats!"
"He isn't pulling his weight, but he's the manager's favorite, so he's getting more gelats"
"You've just done half of the overworld? Great, but _____ did a couple of new weapons which are more important."
"Let's make some new pointless staff teams so our friends can get in on the pay!"
"FAQs and GPs barely do anything, why are they paid staff when developers are expected to spend their time developing while all they have to do is an easy job for an easy ride?"

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

This is a huge can of worms. Who would be put in charge of the distribution of gelats, the local managers? I can hear it now..

Maybe there should be a new global team dedicated to doing this. Personally I think they should have an Accounts Team of a few people who are in charge of passwords/accounts and distribution of gelats, etc.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Maybe there should be a new global team dedicated to doing this. Personally I think they should have an Accounts Team of a few people who are in charge of passwords/accounts and distribution of gelats, etc.

How would they even know themselves? It's an ideal rather than an idea, I really can't see this system working efficiently.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

How would they even know themselves? It's an ideal rather than an idea, I really can't see this system working efficiently.

I guess you have a good point, but Stefan really didn't go in to detail about it so neither of us really know what to expect. Maybe you're taking it the wrong way.

Besides the fact that I now have to pay more to help Graal is something I don't like, but other than that I can see why they're basing things off of Gelats because I understand their future plans and I think it's a good plan and I like where it's headed. I wish there were some way they could decrease the prices though, especially for people just interested in developing, rather than playing, since my work/help is contributing to their paycheck.

[Shakram]

how they want to calculate who get more gelats than someone else ? :O
is scripting more worth than gfxing ?
do gps or faq get gelats too ?
the only way to do this is if evry item in the graalshop have the accounts of the creators in it so only this guys get the gelats
but this will end in that all people only do graalshop items and you have to pay for evrything
i would do the graalshop items for free if developing would be for free too

[Mafukie]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Maybe there should be a new global team dedicated to doing this. Personally I think they should have an Accounts Team of a few people who are in charge of passwords/accounts and distribution of gelats, etc.

No, the way it should work since gelats equal money is that the SERVER generates gelats then the SERVER MANAGER decides how much to delegate to their development team. Also if the SERVER MANAGER wants to add gelats to the server they can pay to add gelats to the server 'bank' and pay people with them that way if the server isn't yet earning gelats, they can still pay their dev team