RoW spawn rate? and the gear situation in general.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by kia345

His house needs to be opened to the public so we can salvage some things

Just event the items off, so that one person doesn't instantly become rich.

In theory he's triple-banned:

Hacking
Ban Evasion
Harassment

Hacking & Ban Evasion are lifetime, so even if they decide he shouldn't be banned for past hacking, he still evaded bans. And if all else fails, he's banned for 30 days for harassment (normally, could I guess be more).

So it's probably safe to event off his items ... though, if he DID get unbanned, he'd be pissed.

I really don't think it's a good idea to give away items after people get banned/quit. However, perhaps when houses fall, the items could be added to some event item storage, and could be evented off.

[James]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

I really don't think it's a good idea to give away items after people get banned/quit. However, perhaps when houses fall, the items could be added to some event item storage, and could be evented off.

That is a fanastic idea, although I think only the administrator should be able to pull the items out.

It would be pretty neat if some of the items also ended up buried in the ground on the main island.

[CABAL49]

This may not be a problem now but three years ago several players including myself lost a lot of items because the server lagged so much. That caused me to quit playing, but it also destroyed a lot of items. Some items need to be pushed back into circulation. I am not saying free ROWs for everyone, I am saying while we are in a period of stability somewhat and we don't have all these people running around shouting GK FAILS, we need to figure out a way to continue the improvement of Kingdoms for everyone. I have been away for a while now but I did sign on yesterday and noticed there had been some updates to the server. Well I didn't mean to make this as long as it became so I am going to end it here.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

A lot of RoWs are "destroyed".

When players quit, those RoWs might as well be destroyed (the players who have been gone for years).

When players are banned, the RoWs are lost (e.g. Satain getting banned, caused LOTS of items to be destroyed).

Right, but there's no guarantee on how long those will stay inactive, either. Every once in a while, one of those finds its way back into circulation.

Originally Posted by CABAL49

I am not saying free ROWs for everyone, I am saying while we are in a period of stability somewhat and we don't have all these people running around shouting GK FAILS, we need to figure out a way to continue the improvement of Kingdoms for everyone.

Quite right, but I don't see improving the spawn rate as a plausible hook.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Hacking & Ban Evasion are lifetime, so even if they decide he shouldn't be banned for past hacking, he still evaded bans. And if all else fails, he's banned for 30 days for harassment (normally, could I guess be more).

I thought Ban Evasion was 30 days... Meh oh well.
DOWN WIT TEH HACKERING-BAN EVADING-HARASSER!

Originally Posted by James

It would be pretty neat if some of the items also ended up buried in the ground on the main island.

More like the kingdom they where on, not main isle.
That'd give more of a reason to go to the kingdom islands, not just for their home (Since I don't see much war anymore...)

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Switch

I thought Ban Evasion was 30 days... Meh oh well.
DOWN WIT TEH HACKERING-BAN EVADING-HARASSER!

There's no set-out punishment for most rule violations, but there should be.

[CABAL49]

Instead of increasing the spawn rate how about just putting items up for event. This way there is an increase the amount in circulation without swarming the market. Personally I would prefer raffle because I have neither speed nor skill and it helps ensure that one person doesn't get all of one item.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Switch

I thought Ban Evasion was 30 days... Meh oh well.
DOWN WIT TEH HACKERING-BAN EVADING-HARASSER!

It may be 30 days, but he'd still be banned as there is time left on his old account.

iSplash has done a significant amount of hacking in his past, he won't be unbanned.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by Googi

There's no set-out punishment for most rule violations, but there should be.

/openaccess [account]
There's timers for every hacking on there. Only 2 are forever I think.

Originally Posted by cbk1994

It may be 30 days, but he'd still be banned as there is time left on his old account.

iSplash has done a significant amount of hacking in his past, he won't be unbanned.

And you think I'd know?


Seriously, I think we should give up trying to help GK.
In my opinion, the staff just don't seem to want to take ideas from the players and atleast test them out to see if it'll do any good.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Switch

Seriously, I think we should give up trying to help GK.
In my opinion, the staff just don't seem to want to take ideas from the players and atleast test them out to see if it'll do any good.

One must organize their thoughts before presenting them. Comments like "This sucks" or "that sucks" are not suggestions. They are what I call "Anti-Suggestions".

A decent suggestion will present an alternative to the present system in question, or an addition to "repair" or upgrade. An example "Anti-Suggestions" might be... "The idling on GK sucks" while a suggestion might look more like "The idling on GK sucks, we should enforce disconnection after extended periods of inactivity in addition to scipts to detect and report macro use".

To be blunt the sort of statements such as the one I have quoted strikes me as quite stupid. I have previously asked for players productive input and I found it was hard to find; between the lack of interest I had to deal with anti-suggestions. The results were useless.

I welcome suggestions, but that doesn't mean they will be developed. Any people serious about their suggestions may want to take the time to refine it.

One suggestion I have anyone who wishes to express their disappointment might be to avoid sweeping generalizations like "the staff"; there is no burgeoning force working around the clock to develop new material for GK. There is only Tigairius and myself with the exception of the few kingdom related staff - who are typically idling.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Switch

Seriously, I think we should give up trying to help GK.
In my opinion, the staff just don't seem to want to take ideas from the players and atleast test them out to see if it'll do any good.

That was the old staff team. Some stuff has actually been done since Tig got manager position.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Switch

/openaccess [account]
There's timers for every hacking on there. Only 2 are forever I think.

Ban length on each individual banned account is set, but there isn't anything like a list of rules with breaking this rule = this punishment, so two different players can receive different punishments for the same crime.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

That was the old staff team. Some stuff has actually been done since Tig got manager position.

Like...?
I haven't heard of these updates.

Originally Posted by Googi

Ban length on each individual banned account is set, but there isn't anything like a list of rules with breaking this rule = this punishment, so two different players can receive different punishments for the same crime.

That's true... It's just supposed to be common sense and not being abusive with it...

Originally Posted by Stephen

One must organize their thoughts before presenting them. Comments like "This sucks" or "that sucks" are not suggestions. They are what I call "Anti-Suggestions".

A decent suggestion will present an alternative to the present system in question, or an addition to "repair" or upgrade. An example "Anti-Suggestions" might be... "The idling on GK sucks" while a suggestion might look more like "The idling on GK sucks, we should enforce disconnection after extended periods of inactivity in addition to scipts to detect and report macro use".

To be blunt the sort of statements such as the one I have quoted strikes me as quite stupid. I have previously asked for players productive input and I found it was hard to find; between the lack of interest I had to deal with anti-suggestions. The results were useless.

I welcome suggestions, but that doesn't mean they will be developed. Any people serious about their suggestions may want to take the time to refine it.

One suggestion I have anyone who wishes to express their disappointment might be to avoid sweeping generalizations like "the staff"; there is no burgeoning force working around the clock to develop new material for GK. There is only Tigairius and myself with the exception of the few kingdom related staff - who are typically idling.

First try playing the game on a trial account.
Do you like what you're getting?
If not, change it.

Now try playing the game as a newbie with Gold.
Do you like what you're getting NOW?
If not, change it.

Repeat this process while you're going through the levels, as well as take ideas from players if they have any good ones.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Switch

First try playing the game on a trial account.
Do you like what you're getting?
If not, change it.

That's called incentive. It's so users have incentive to upgrade. Cyberjoureurs utilize irritation for incentive, much like Microsoft does with their "Genuine Advantage" scheme. There are other equally effective means, but that is the one they chose for their server. I don't think we have much play with it.

Originally Posted by Switch

Now try playing the game as a newbie with Gold.
Do you like what you're getting NOW?
If not, change it.

This is called a challenge. You do not like being new because you have nothing. The challenge is to get stuff.

Originally Posted by Switch

Repeat this process while you're going through the levels, as well as take ideas from players if they have any good ones.

You have only offered a process for deriving ideas of my own, I am still very happy to hear yours. But don't forget that I did not simply walk on GK one day and suddenly become staff - I had to play, and that was long before there were as many nice people as there are now. Things were much less "friendly" back then.

[RealJuggernaut]

Originally Posted by Draenin

There's still about the same amount of plat out there, considering how many people do alchemy now. A fair collection of dusts will fetch you about 100k in no time.

nah, theres not nearly as much plat as there used to be. no one can even afford to buy diamonds anymore. i remember hiding stacks of 50k plat behind buildings so staff wouldnt find it on my acc, that was years ago though ;p

edit: also, about satain, his items should be taken. considering i lost my prepped ice sword, and my bro got his sorc hammer taken... and we werent even banned, we just quit for a few years