Extra! Extra! Application for News Administrator!

[pooper200000]

3:28 EST 03/08/09

Stefan the lead coder of Cyberjoueurs (The parent company of Graal Online, and many Iphone applications) posted an application for a news administrator position.

The application consisted of five questions, the first of which was,"What is your Graal account name?" This writer chooses to answer the question as pooper200000, more commonly known as Supernanny.

The second question was if the applicant possess gold, and this question must be answered with a resounding,"Yes!"

All of the questions to this point seemed to be almost general Graal application questions, until the third question came about. The question stated,"What is your past experience?" and provided additional detail asking for only relevant experience such as the creation of news, and updates on graal.net)

The best way to state this is that the experience of this writer is over enough for the position. Writing experience can be considered many numerous activities, and therefore writers have as much and as little experience as they need. This native English speaking writer's experience consists of adding news for the Zone server, as well as updating miscellaneous articles for the Zone server.

The fourth question stated in the application was one of the most important.
"What would you like to do if given the position?" My best answer would be that I would attempt to visit all of the classic servers, as well as to visit servers under development. An example of a story this writer would put in the news would be for the server dev graal_PuppetMaster. The server recently had an open release, and it turned out to not be exactly what some people were expecting. However, the advertising of this server on Graal.net, may have helped the process of pointing developer's to servers in need of assistance.

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In addition to posting news, this writer would utilize experience with from being the Zone FAQ chief to work on creating comprehensive new articles, and also this writer would work on expanding some of the current articles. One of the aims of this writer would be adding pictures to the news for particular servers as well as adding information for Graal users with an interest in Graal.

This writer's contribution's would not be limited to only their ability to take screen shots. This writer could also use their grammatical prowess and recently installed spell checker. Combined with the above and below proposed services by this writer and also combined with the duties of such a position as the News Administrator position, this writer would be able to handle the duties of a News Administrator.

The last question is a question of clarity, "what makes this applicant unique and better than all the other applicants?" This writer's skills gained through experience from being a staff member on the Zone gold server, as well as this writer's interpersonal, and intrapersonal skills make the writer an ideal candidate for the position of News Administrator.

Other unique qualities that really make this applicant stand out is the applicant's friendly and positive attitude and intuitive nature. This applicant is able to control their emotions when writing. This writer is in no way perfect with grammar, but this user's hard work and dedication are shown in all aspects of their work. All of this writer's combined skills make them a valuable asset to any Graal team, especially to the Graal News team.
-Written by Supernanny (Pooper200000)

[Rufus]

I don't get it?

[pig132]

i think this is an application, but what the **** is a news administrator

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Rufus

I don't get it?

I'm trying to give a more unique application.

Originally Posted by pig132

i think this is an application, but what the **** is a news administrator

As stated with Stefan's post.

Originally Posted by Stefan

Title: Hiring: News admin

A lot of fun stuff and updates are happening on Graal servers but not a lot of news are added to graal.net (and the serverlist news). For improving that situation it would be good to have some dedicated staff who talk to server staff to being news to graal.net. This is mainly a helper position and will eventually get global level 1 (RC) to be able to talk to staff. The person who is managing this should be someone who comes along nicely with the staff on servers.

Admin is short for administrator.

[pig132]

i know what an admin is. my question was aimed towards "how does this have a use"

server managers should be posting this, not a "news admin" thats just ***

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by pig132

i know what an admin is. my question was aimed towards "how does this have a use"

server managers should be posting this, not a "news admin" thats just ***

How does this position have a use? This position has a use by allowing for the graal.net news to be updated more frequently, as some servers do not add their updates to graal.net.

I am applying for the News Administrator position.

[thesmoothcriminal]

Trying to hard mate

[Matt]

This is a very unique application, good job. Sounds like you understand the job your applying for, and would be quite good at it.

[Unpredlctable]

do not confuse pretension with uniqueness

[MiniOne]

Was this a real application?
Or just a example of a application?
Its interesting though long.

[Clockwork]

Hell no...in a really nice way.

You've proven how you handle positions of power through some of your moderation, which I won't argue about.

>>valuable asset to any Graal team

no.

[Dan]

I vote for Supernanny, I guess!

[Jesper]

Originally Posted by Dan

I vote for Supernanny, I guess!

I agree !

[Crono]

Seeing as how these applications are public I assume we're allowed to express our feelings within the rules, with mine being:

Oh god no.

Originally Posted by pooper200000

All of this writer's combined skills make them a valuable asset to any Graal team

Yeah, okay.

[Crimson2005]

No, can't even mod properly.

[Ravenblade1979]

@Supernanny: Unique application but I would like to see you fine tune your art of writing. Just a bit, not much in fact.


Otherwise I would vote for pooper for this job.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

@Supernanny: Unique application but I would like to see you fine tune your art of writing. Just a bit, not much in fact.


Otherwise I would vote for pooper for this job.

This is just his application. Showing this piece of text proves him to be able to write with quality, it doesn't mean his art of writing will be similar for all news articles he's going to make.

[Frankie]

The guy tries to be unique with his application instead of the same boring generic layout that all the other applicants have used and people rip him apart over it? Give him a break.

[Ravenblade1979]

Originally Posted by Frankie

The guy tries to be unique with his application instead of the same boring generic layout that all the other applicants have used and people rip him apart over it? Give him a break.

When you know there's potential in someone you don't "Give him a break."

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

When you know there's potential in someone you don't "Give him a break."

Huh? I meant give him a break from all these negative posts about the way he did his application.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Frankie

The guy tries to be unique with his application instead of the same boring generic layout that all the other applicants have used and people rip him apart over it? Give him a break.

Originally Posted by Dan

This is just his application. Showing this piece of text proves him to be able to write with quality, it doesn't mean his art of writing will be similar for all news articles he's going to make.

I agree.
It is interesting, and well put together. Sort of like an article would be. I like it.

[Elizabeth]

no.

[Nataxo]

I don't like how you use your Staff positions, ughhhh. No.

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

Was this a real application?
Or just a example of a application?
Its interesting though long.

Yes, this is a real application. I wouldn't object to other's using it as an example, as the format some of the other applicants take make the applications seem quite dry and boring. One my differences that set me apart from the other applicants is that I like to "spice" things up a little and have fun to a degree!

Originally Posted by Clockwork

Hell no...in a really nice way.
You've proven how you handle positions of power through some of your moderation, which I won't argue about.

I'd like to just address this and move on with it. I invite any of you (Not trying to single Clockwork out in this instance) who have a problem with my moderation to forum PM me if there is a specific post which you are referring to. I won't ask others to reply for me, but some users have messaged me about their post and I've worked with them.

I try to be reasonable with how I do my job, but my job is to enforce the forum rules. I love suggestions, because if there is a problem with how I am doing my job it gives me insight on how other's feel I do my position.

Your insight allows for me to improve and do a better job in the future. I'm not perfect as I said within my application referring to my grammar, but I can work to improve on anything. We all make mistakes, but the goal is to improve and learn from our mistakes so in the future we don't make the same mistake again.

I like referring to the common analogy,"Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me!" Please understand that I'll explain my reasoning to you, but there are some posts that I will not restore.

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

@Supernanny: Unique application but I would like to see you fine tune your art of writing. Just a bit, not much in fact.

Otherwise I would vote for pooper for this job.

I agree, my writing isn't always the best. I find entertaining challenge in working to constantly improve my writing and I enjoy shifting my style of writing. I get tired following the same format of communication, and I like to keep things interesting!

The act of keeping the method in which I speak interesting allows for players to to be interested in reading when I speak. If we stick to the same dry format, players are bound to lose interest.

Originally Posted by Nataxo

I don't like how you use your Staff positions, ughhhh. No.

I'm not sure if this is in response to how I moderate or if it is in response to how I perform my duties on Zone as GP/ET/FAQ Chief on Zone. Either way, I am always open to suggestions. If you have a problem with how I do my jobs I do, feel free to contact me about it in a forum PM.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

If you have a problem with how I do my jobs I do, feel free to contact me about it in a forum PM.

What happens after that?

[Unpredlctable]

Originally Posted by Rufus

What happens after that?

you will be told why you are wrong and then thereafter ignored

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Nataxo

ALL.

I mean, I'm cool with you as gaming friends, but as partners or you being an authority its just awful.

Srry, its just the way you are,

If you want to message me some of the specific problems feel free to let me know. I'm unsure if you are resentful of the way I acted at times on Zone, because as the Zone Police it is sometimes necessary to act quickly. At those times, I am not able to reason with you in those instances because it is a time to act, not a time to talk. Part of being the police is that I need to boss people around if there is a problem, usually bossing around those who are the problem so they are aware of their error and will not make it again.

Originally Posted by Rufus

What happens after that?

I'll review the post in question to double check my work and I may ask you for explanation if your post is extremely unclear and if it could be editted to be appropriate. Unless there is an explanation I never really thought of, I'll leave your post deleted. I try not to delete posts to begin with unless I'm sure they should be deleted.

I'll admit I make errors, as I've stated twice within this thread. The trick is to improve and to make no mistakes, or at a minimum less mistakes in the future. I'm not trying to say mistakes are okay, but we all make them and the best opportunity I can find out of a mistake is to learn from the mistake so the mistake will not happen in the future.

I will say I've toned back on my moderation in the past week, an example of which would be that I've tried to relax on the deletion of posts as spam or off topic.

Originally Posted by Unpredlctable

you will be told why you are wrong and then thereafter ignored

My job isn't to argue with you if you feel I am in error. I will explain my reasoning and will attempt to clarify with you. After a point if you just make responses that have no value to the argument at all and you are simply arguing for the sake of arguing, I choose to stop responding. I do have superiors for a reason, and I would encourage you if you feel I am not adequately responding to your needs to continue on to speak with either Sam or Darlene.

[Unpredlctable]

what is a server?

Originally Posted by pooper200000

My job isn't to argue with you if you feel I am in error. I will explain my reasoning and will attempt to clarify with you. After a point if you just make responses that have no value to the argument at all and you are simply arguing for the sake of arguing, I choose to stop responding. I do have superiors for a reason, and I would encourage you if you feel I am not adequately responding to your needs to continue on to speak with either Sam or Darlene.

I didn't say it was your job. It's still a **** move, bro.

[Nataxo]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

I'm not sure if this is in response to how I moderate or if it is in response to how I perform my duties on Zone as GP/ET/FAQ Chief on Zone. Either way, I am always open to suggestions. If you have a problem with how I do my jobs I do, feel free to contact me about it in a forum PM.

ALL.

I mean, I'm cool with you as gaming friends, but as partners or you being an authority its just awful.

Srry, its just the way you are,

[Imperialistic]

The only thing I really question you about is that, 99% of the time, you are on Zone. I highly doubt you even know much about each server, I know if you get the job you can go to each server and see whats going on, but it is always good to have some sort of background on servers right?

[kia345]

Jumping on the bandwagon of letting our opinions fly, I'll be honest: This application isn't that bad.



Because a majority of the other ones suck too, just for different reasons.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by kia345

Jumping on the bandwagon of letting our opinions fly, I'll be honest: This application isn't that bad.



Because a majority of the other ones suck too, just for different reasons.

well it was definately more creative than the other ones, and it actually looks like there was some work put into it, but from his performances as moderator on the forums, i don't think he's suitable for the position.

[Nataxo]

though I must say, at firsts when I just became ET you where friendly and helpful to me.

[jkool666]

Firstly I'd like to say your application is GENIUS. Applying for a news position and posting an application like that? Genius. If you think otherwise, you're an idiot or jealous.

Secondly I'd like to say Supernanny is extremely mature in all aspects of Graal staff that he is apart of. Working with him over the years I can say:
-He is extremely trustworthy with "power" and wouldn't abuse it
-When he agrees to do something for you, you don't need to concern yourself whether it will be done right or not.

But unfortunately, finally I must say, aren't you a little busy to be picking up another Graal occupation?

[kia345]

Creative isn't always good, unless you're generally a creative, fun person. You're not, so this just made you look stupid.

[Rufus]

It's so dorky and not in a "haha that's clever" way, just in a "I feel as though my existence has been insulted" way. I didn't understand what the opening post was supposed to be at first, because it reads like something I would expect from a 11 year old trying to be a smartass.

Here's a few reasons why I don't think you should get the position:

• As mentioned, your writing is all over the place. You don't seem to have any quirkiness to your text and I found what you posted really uncomfortable to read for more reasons than one. It's almost as though you're trying too hard, linking keywords as though we don't know what they mean when they're pretty basic. It's condescending and as stated earlier by someone else, pretentious.
• You're a gossip and a trouble maker. While these 'qualities' may be great to have for a tabloid newspaper journalist, they certainly aren't appropriate for a game company. You have spread chat logs of administrators to several people I know and deliberately spread rumors about people. This is immature childsplay, but apparently this kind of sleaze is noteworthy to you.
• You're a social chameleon and tell the administrators of the game what they want to hear. I feel as though this would make for awfully boring news and would bring about nothing we haven't already got.
• While you may have the ability to change your colors for the administrators of the game, you are lacking when it comes to associating with the players. This is very much evident in your excessive moderation of the forums and your responses to forum pm's when inquiring or complaining. I feel as this job will heavily rely upon social interaction at a player level, but if you want to act like you've above players and the moral compass for Graal then you can never truly associate with us.

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Rufus

It's so dorky and not in a "haha that's clever" way, just in a "I feel as though my existence has been insulted" way. I didn't understand what the opening post was supposed to be at first, because it reads like something I would expect from a 11 year old trying to be a smartass.

Here's a few reasons why I don't think you should get the position:

• As mentioned, your writing is all over the place. You don't seem to have any quirkiness to your text and I found what you posted really uncomfortable to read for more reasons than one. It's almost as though you're trying too hard, linking keywords as though we don't know what they mean when they're pretty basic. It's condescending and as stated earlier by someone else, pretentious.
• You're a gossip and a trouble maker. While these 'qualities' may be great to have for a tabloid newspaper journalist, they certainly aren't appropriate for a game company. You have spread chat logs of administrators to several people I know and deliberately spread rumors about people. This is immature childsplay, but apparently this kind of sleaze is noteworthy to you.
• You're a social chameleon and tell the administrators of the game what they want to hear. I feel as though this would make for awfully boring news and would bring about nothing we haven't already got.
• While you may have the ability to change your colors for the administrators of the game, you are lacking when it comes to associating with the players. This is very much evident in your excessive moderation of the forums and your responses to forum pm's when inquiring or complaining. I feel as this job will heavily rely upon social interaction at a player level, but if you want to act like you've above players and the moral compass for Graal then you can never truly associate with us.

I linked to words, as providing links can often times allow for players who may not be posting on the forums to understand some of the abbreviations we use.

I disagree with your statements of being a gossip and trouble maker. While I am unsure what exactly you mean by spread, I will admit to having shared chat logs. As is part of my position on Zone, I feel it necessary to share chat logs with my superiors when they request the history. I have also chosen to give information from history to players, as I often will copy information from the history of one player to send to another in instances of similiar information.

I do not recall deliberately spreading rumors, as a rumor could be one of many things. If you are saying I speak good of others, this is true. I am respectful of all people.

As far as your comments go about me being a social chameleon, I adapt to speak with each person in a manner that is favorable to them.

For example if someone doesn't like to talk about cheese, I won't bring up cheese, but instead may bring up their favorite (Once again, I am English. Not their favourite to me) food. I call this being sociable and it allows me to better interact with players and staff as a whole.

I am able to associate with players, but it is at times necessary with my moderation to act. I'm not above the players, I am exactly the opposite. I am below the players.

As I have told some of the Zone staff, becoming a staff member does not make you better than everyone else. It only makes you lower, because you must work to do a good job and must make wise decisions.

Acting as a staff member, when players lack the ability to act only alienates one from the players. As I've already responded, and as you have stated, I have a "chameleon personality" and this personality would allow for me to interact better with the players to be at a level only slightly lower than them.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

I linked to words, as providing links can often times allow for players who may not be posting on the forums to understand some of the abbreviations we use.

The words you have highlighted are not abbreviations, they're pretty basic terms. You highlighted them as though people don't know what a "screenshot" or what a "server" is? What kind of people do you think the players are? They're not idiots, so what you posted was very condescending.

Originally Posted by pooper200000

I disagree with your statements of being a gossip and trouble maker. While I am unsure what exactly you mean by spread, I will admit to having shared chat logs. As is part of my position on Zone, I feel it necessary to share chat logs with my superiors when they request the history.

I do not recall deliberately spreading rumors, as a rumor could be one of many things.

To be fair this is a load of rubbish and completely different to what you said in a private message to me a few months ago when I brought it up. According to the rules and for the purpose of this application discussion I can always pull up some logs if you give me permission? I can't see that happening though for some reason. Neither myself nor Crono are staff on Zone, we don't need to know what certain staff are saying or doing, you really shouldn't be telling us, and we're not the only people to receive such content.

Originally Posted by pooper200000

As far as your comments go about me being a social chameleon, I adapt to speak with each person in a manner that is favorable to them.

For example if someone doesn't like to talk about cheese, I won't bring up cheese, but instead may bring up their favorite food. I call this being sociable and it allows me to better interact with players and staff as a whole.

You've basically just agreed with what I said yet the example you gave pretty much has nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by pooper200000

I am able to associate with players, but it is at times necessary with my moderation to act. I'm not above the players, I am exactly the opposite.

You're not, and it is pretty evident by how much they ostracize you.

Originally Posted by pooper200000

I am below the players.

I know, but that's not what you think you are.

Originally Posted by pooper200000

As I have told some of the Zone staff, becoming a staff member does not make you better than everyone else. It only makes you lower, because you must work to do a good job and must make wise decisions.

Here we have a prime example of you saying something to score points with administrators. This isn't a Miss World contest. Instead of responding with what I've said with blatant lies and one-liners that might make you look good, why don't you try responding with the actual truth and reality here? Staff are never below players and if you treat responsibility as a negative then why are you even applying? It's a really immature mindset.

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Rufus

The words you have highlighted are not abbreviations, they're pretty basic terms. You highlighted them as though people don't know what a "screenshot" or what a "server" is? What kind of people do you think the players are? They're not idiots, so what you posted was very condescending.

I am posting what you consider basic terms. To some users, especially those new to the forums and Graal in general, they may not be familiar with those terms.

Originally Posted by Rufus

To be fair this is a load of rubbish and completely different to what you said in a private message to me a few months ago when I brought it up. I can always bring up logs if you give me permission according to the rules, but I can't see that happening for some reason. Neither myself nor Crono are staff on Zone, we don't need to know what certain staff are saying or doing.

I do not grant you permission to bring up logs obviously. You seem intent on slandering me as an individual and I will not give you further "ammunition" to attack me on. My goal is not to promote conflict, my goal is gather news and get along with those on the servers I visit.

I do not remember this being completely different from a few months ago. All I remember was you insulting me repeatedly for information that must have been shared to you previously anyway. It seems quite hypocritical to debate such a point. You then also continued to attack my via forum PMs when the chat in game was not enough for you, as I refused to engage in the conflict.

Originally Posted by Rufus

You've basically just agreed with what I said yet the example you gave pretty much has nothing to do with it.

My example had everything to do with it. I try to individualize myself to each person, as a method to prevent conflict, and to be personable. If someone does not like to speak of a specific topic, I would not repeatedly bring it up just to agitate them. Instead I would bring up another topic, such as their favorite food, that they would rather speak about. I promote conversation and interaction within reason.

Originally Posted by Rufus

You're not, and it is pretty evident by how much they ostracize you.

I disagree, as I am able to get along with the same players who apparently ostracize me completely fine in game.

Originally Posted by Rufus

I know, but that's not what you think you are.

How do you know what I think I am? You admit that I use that example, and I use the example because it is what I think I am. Perhaps you are mistaken in your reasoning, but I am sure I know what I think I am.

Originally Posted by Rufus

Here we have a prime example of you saying something to score points with administrators. This isn't a Miss World contest. Instead of responding with what I've said with blatant lies and one-liners that might make you look good, why don't you try responding with the actual truth and reality here? Staff are never below players and if you treat responsibility as a negative then why are you even applying? It's a really immature mindset.

I am not aiming to "score points" with the administrators. I know it isn't a Miss World contest, but it is how I feel about the issue. If you disagree, that is fine, but my those are my opinions. I'm not trying to look good, I say what I think. The actual truth and relatity here is that staff members are set apart from the players by their additional rights. Being set apart does not make one better, it only alienates them from those who will object to their performing their job.

I don't treat responsibility as negative. I simply stated that being staff does not make you above the players, that it sets you below the players. It sets you below the players, and it is necessary to give additional effort on the staff's part to work with the players. Apparently it is an immature mindset, but I look as staff being a hard position, and I don't look at it negatively.

I don't look at something for its negativity. I look first for that which is good. Afterward if it is necessary, as may be shown in releasing a product on a server, I address the flaws.

Originally Posted by Unpredlctable

what is a server?

I didn't say it was your job. It's still a **** move, bro.

I would recommend reading my post and the links provided Unpredlctable, if you don't know what a server is.

If you disagree with the way I act in response to arguing for the sake of arguing, perhaps you should do as I suggested and forum PM Darlene or Sam? I didn't say it was my job, I was stating that it isn't my job to argue with you for the sake of arguing over nothing.

[MiniOne]

I'm going to agree with jkool (Jesse), your maturity is a obvious stand out, as well as your ability to form understandable sentences which many other players don't seem to possess the ability to do. I also enjoy talking to you both on forums and ingame so I'm all for you getting this job, though I believe Nat seems to be more experienced in this particular field.

Your Application was unique and in ways a work of art, and I personally think you'd do a great job Therefore I believe you deserve the job.