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Old 05-17-2009, 04:58 PM
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staff massing

the amount of people who abuse their FAQ and ET tag to mass message buying/selling advertisements has really gotten out of hand recently.

there's even one person right now advertising PPA contracts while on ET tag. these people should be punished or have their tag removed.
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Old 05-17-2009, 07:34 PM
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the amount of people who abuse their FAQ and ET tag to mass message buying/selling advertisements has really gotten out of hand recently.

there's even one person right now advertising PPA contracts while on ET tag. these people should be punished or have their tag removed.
Right now there is a script that will alert RC whenever a staff masses on tag. I'll look through the logs of mass messages we keep and let them know. We normally speak with players as soon as they mass message.

But, I really don't buy the excuse that they "thought they weren't on ET tag".

Someone used that during a spar tourney once.
  • :seats
  • :in *click*
  • :in *click*
  • :start
  • :seats
  • :in *click*
  • <Mass Message: SELLING: 5x whatevers>
  • :in *click*
  • :seats
  • "oops forgot I was on tag ^___^"
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Old 05-17-2009, 11:43 PM
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Right now there is a script that will alert RC whenever a staff masses on tag. I'll look through the logs of mass messages we keep and let them know. We normally speak with players as soon as they mass message.

But, I really don't buy the excuse that they "thought they weren't on ET tag".

Someone used that during a spar tourney once.
  • :seats
  • :in *click*
  • :in *click*
  • :start
  • :seats
  • :in *click*
  • <Mass Message: SELLING: 5x whatevers>
  • :in *click*
  • :seats
  • "oops forgot I was on tag ^___^"
haha yeah.

*mass message*

OOPS I FORGOT!

I like the people that do something like:

"SELLING ---

OH BTW ANSWERING QUESTIONS "
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:23 AM
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Alex *Cadet* (GP) (Sun May 17 17:10:59 2009):
Mass message:
offers on shipka

UnKnown Confusion *Trial* (Events Team) (Sun May 17 19:04:11 2009):
Mass message:
PPA is currently accepting contracts just type in /ppa or come down to our headquarters and hire an agent today.

Selling large sr house for dual deagles+something good.

Sigma (FAQ) (Mon May 11 22:04:16 2009):
Mass message:
Taking offers on MT

Just a few examples.
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Old 05-19-2009, 03:11 AM
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Alex *Cadet* (GP) (Sun May 17 17:10:59 2009):
Mass message:
offers on shipka

UnKnown Confusion *Trial* (Events Team) (Sun May 17 19:04:11 2009):
Mass message:
PPA is currently accepting contracts just type in /ppa or come down to our headquarters and hire an agent today.

Selling large sr house for dual deagles+something good.

Sigma (FAQ) (Mon May 11 22:04:16 2009):
Mass message:
Taking offers on MT

Just a few examples.
To be clear I was on ppa tag when I massed that out,and I didnt know that it switches over when you go on staff tag. Therefore it should be fixed because that is what causes problems. You cant be sure that everyone has opened up your pm,and then you go on staff tag and it becomes a red bubble and you get yelled at.
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:33 AM
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To be clear I was on ppa tag when I massed that out,and I didnt know that it switches over when you go on staff tag. Therefore it should be fixed because that is what causes problems. You cant be sure that everyone has opened up your pm,and then you go on staff tag and it becomes a red bubble and you get yelled at.
If you massed before you were on tag there's no problem because it won't be sent to the people who have masses ignored and it also won't alert RC.
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Old 05-17-2009, 08:28 PM
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On GK if you send a PM which abuses the swear filter it will not be sent. If you can detect that a mass is being sent, you should be able to prevent it from being sent while they're on staff tag.

This way you give them a staff mass message tool, and if they abuse it you have legitimate reason to punish them.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:15 PM
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On GK if you send a PM which abuses the swear filter it will not be sent. If you can detect that a mass is being sent, you should be able to prevent it from being sent while they're on staff tag.
No, it's not possible. That's part of the default swear filter, which is not flexible enough to allow you to add checks like that.
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This way you give them a staff mass message tool, and if they abuse it you have legitimate reason to punish them.
Also not possible, PMs can only be sent using certain GUI controls, and it would go through the same process as a normal PM being sent, it just might look different.
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Old 05-17-2009, 08:30 PM
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It's not always intentional to mass on tag, since it does the mass as a tag mass if you log on before someones clicked the bubble. It's stupid that FAQ's aren't allowed to mass because believe it or not the players that need the most help are the ones that don't know to check for FAQ. Surprise Surprise.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:00 AM
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It's not always intentional to mass on tag, since it does the mass as a tag mass if you log on before someones clicked the bubble. It's stupid that FAQ's aren't allowed to mass because believe it or not the players that need the most help are the ones that don't know to check for FAQ. Surprise Surprise.
Eventually I'd like to have some kind of training course for new players that would teach them the basics. I think that would be a lot more beneficial than a group of FAQs, since, as you said, people don't know who to contact. That's not to say we should get rid of FAQs at all, though.

It's alright if you mass on tag, but it needs to be related to your job. The only time we've been disconnecting people is when it's not related because they're just spamming all the other players who may have disabled mass PMs. It's already annoying enough reading PMs from the few RC staff that send masses like that.
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Eventually I'd like to have some kind of training course for new players that would teach them the basics. I think that would be a lot more beneficial than a group of FAQs, since, as you said, people don't know who to contact. That's not to say we should get rid of FAQs at all, though.

It's alright if you mass on tag, but it needs to be related to your job. The only time we've been disconnecting people is when it's not related because they're just spamming all the other players who may have disabled mass PMs. It's already annoying enough reading PMs from the few RC staff that send masses like that.
I had this idea for ages, so did Frankie if i remember correctly. We honestly should get that system done asap for new players instead of them logging on Era and having no idea what the hell to do.
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PM me if you own a souizen
Just got that one. I've not been on Era long enough these days to know exactly what a Souizen is, but I figure it's not something that will answer questions a newbie might have.
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Just got that one. I've not been on Era long enough these days to know exactly what a Souizen is, but I figure it's not something that will answer questions a newbie might have.
I believe he sent that message because Tachi is getting a new gun, and he wanted to collect all of the old ones and replace them with the new one.

I'm not sure how true this is, but when he sent the message both he and Motive were located at era_meph-duel, and that is usually where new guns get tested.
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I believe he sent that message because Tachi is getting a new gun, and he wanted to collect all of the old ones and replace them with the new one.

I'm not sure how true this is, but when he sent the message both he and Motive were located at era_meph-duel, and that is usually where new guns get tested.
I imagine there's a Guns Admin for testing. "Testing" is quite a leap for a non-Dev staff.
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