What would attract you to Valikorlia?

[WarriorCam]

I am just wondering, what would attract some of you, the Graal players who don't play our server, to our server? My goal is to keep Valikorlia a strict roleplaying server, so please don't bother suggesting we drop that element of it because that is one thing that is not being dropped. I am also of the belief that keeping an active playerbase interested in roleplaying happy is more important than keeping a large playerbase that doesn't roleplay as much. Quality over quantity.

Anyways, yeah. If you have any suggestions, comments, ideas, let me know. If you're not quite sure what our server is all about, feel free to ask and I'll try my best to explain the chaos that is Val.

[cbk1994]

I don't know anything about Valikorlia ... maybe advertise it a bit, write some news, etc?

[Crono]

A lot of current "Valikorlians" aren't really even Valikorlians at heart. They claim they don't want a level up/"battle" system because it ruins roleplaying and whatnot, but what they don't realize is that when Valikorlia was revived in 2002, that's exactly what it had. It had a level up system and it had a way to hit other players (even though pking was illegal).

In 2003 Val was at it's prime, constantly battling with Era for second place on the playerlist, sometimes even grabbing first. It had a great level up system, first of it's kind on any playerworld in it's time, it had a nice and original gui, and it still had some RPing. Some may say that Val2003 killed RPing because everyone was either a newb or too busy leveling up, but honestly it wasn't really even that bad.

The current generation of players (on Val of course) are mostly midbies who probably started playing Valikorlia in 2004. They wouldn't understand how important it is to actually draw players to the server even if very little of the players are actually willing to RP. The problem in 2003 was that RPing wasn't really heavily encouraged or enforced. I blame this on the overworld. When Val got rid of the overworld and introduced the worldmap (2004), RP began to pick up again. I know that the level-up system was removed when the worldmap was introduced but I do truly believe the worldmap played a bigger role in encouraging RPing than the removal of the level-up system.

In my opinion (obviously) Val needs to re-introduce the level up system and introduce some kind of battle system to give the server the RPG element it needs. Valikorlia is not and never was supposed to be purely text based. New players are not a bad thing, if Val increased it's active playerbase by 40-50 players and only 15 of them RP it's still more RP activity which should be welcomed.

[Soala]

Val of today is just awesome.
But most of players are just getting on graal to kill
Which has more effect on Zone and Era, they just love to kill
The actual players love to RP, which is nice ok, but you should have both
Leveling system back AND RP
Look on GK, we can do lot of things, and we can also RP in our kingdoms
I must agree this is probably not the same type of RP
There was a period where I was playing Valikorlia.
But seriously, Val got such nice graphisms and systems, but it would be wonderful if it could become like GK.

Because, even if you like to RP, there is nothing else to do than RP and Idle all day there.

[Pimmeh]

Originally Posted by Crono

A lot of current "Valikorlians" aren't really even Valikorlians at heart. They claim they don't want a level up/"battle" system because it ruins roleplaying and whatnot, but what they don't realize is that when Valikorlia was revived in 2002, that's exactly what it had. It had a level up system and it had a way to hit other players (even though pking was illegal).

In 2003 Val was at it's prime, constantly battling with Era for second place on the playerlist, sometimes even grabbing first. It had a great level up system, first of it's kind on any playerworld in it's time, it had a nice and original gui, and it still had some RPing. Some may say that Val2003 killed RPing because everyone was either a newb or too busy leveling up, but honestly it wasn't really even that bad.

The current generation of players (on Val of course) are mostly midbies who probably started playing Valikorlia in 2004. They wouldn't understand how important it is to actually draw players to the server even if very little of the players are actually willing to RP. The problem in 2003 was that RPing wasn't really heavily encouraged or enforced. I blame this on the overworld. When Val got rid of the overworld and introduced the worldmap (2004), RP began to pick up again. I know that the level-up system was removed when the worldmap was introduced but I do truly believe the worldmap played a bigger role in encouraging RPing than the removal of the level-up system.

In my opinion (obviously) Val needs to re-introduce the level up system and introduce some kind of battle system to give the server the RPG element it needs. Valikorlia is not and never was supposed to be purely text based. New players are not a bad thing, if Val increased it's active playerbase by 40-50 players and only 15 of them RP it's still more RP activity which should be welcomed.

Yes.
Omake, if you want to attract older players back go Valikorlia, I agree with Crono.

Also, I have never had the feeling that you could get things approved easily, and even the small things need full approval.

Accesability, playability, challenges
Those things are generally what I look for in a game, and when I started playing Valikorlia (2002, right after it launched) it had me hooked up. I RPed more then I leveled, although I think I was the only one who did so, and had lots of fun with the larger RP's that involved nations, army drills and whatnot.
Nowadays I miss that about Valikorlia, and that is why I have stopped playing.

[Rufus]

A decent PVP system.

[Twinny]

Main problem with Val is that I never really know how to start. I could never find any guides or anything and the players were too afraid to break character to help you (that or they just don't care). You need a friend to get you started seemingly....

[Clockwork]

I'm really a big roleplayer in yahoo IM's lol.

I don't like to do it player by player. The few times I've went on there asking to rp in pm's I've always gotten asked why and no one would do it. xD

[Imperialistic]

Maybe making it a optional RP server... a whole another side to Val would be awesome.

[xAzerothx]

PvP.

[cbk1994]

I think most Graalians just don't like roleplaying ... this is obvious on GK as well.

me: ahoy there
you: yo wats up

[Tigairius]

I see very few Valikorlian oldbies around anymore. When I log on I instantly remember how wonderful it was back 00-03. Before Clash got manager (no offense, Clash) I loved Valikorlia. What would bring me back to Valikorlia? Asca Dagnir, or similar. I know many people are against this, but I am a true Valikorlian, and I want to see the old kingdoms back. The Valikorlia that exists now is not the Valikorlia that I knew and once appreciated it.

[Kristi]

Attractive 18+ females

[DustyPorViva]

I haven't played Val in a long time, but assuming from Crono's post, the whole system revolves around roleplaying? Roleplaying is fine, a system built ONLY on roleplaying is not. You can't rely on players to make their own game, you have to give them stuff to do as well. Just don't forget about RP, keep enforcing it, and it shouldn't go away.

I agree with Crono, if I remember rightly, Val had a pretty cool RPG system.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I haven't played Val in a long time, but assuming from Crono's post, the whole system revolves around roleplaying?

Actually, there is no real "system" of it...

[Pimmeh]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I see very few Valikorlian oldbies around anymore. When I log on I instantly remember how wonderful it was back 00-03. Before Clash got manager (no offense, Clash) I loved Valikorlia. What would bring me back to Valikorlia? Asca Dagnir, or similar. I know many people are against this, but I am a true Valikorlian, and I want to see the old kingdoms back. The Valikorlia that exists now is not the Valikorlia that I knew and once appreciated it.

Thank you!
I miss the whole bunch of nations too. The idea of being part of something is wonderful!

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Switch

Actually, there is no real "system" of it...

Which is what I mean. You just can't throw up levels and then tell people to wing it. There are plenty, plenty of roleplaying games out there, but at the same time they offer content.

[Galdor]

new super awesome graphics would make me give it a try I guess, and cool background sound effects for the levels to help giving a feel of a place.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Galdor

new super awesome graphics would make me give it a try I guess, and cool background sound effects for the levels to help giving a feel of a place.

Go log onto Valikorlia, you might get a pleasant surprise

[xAzerothx]

Valikorlia is beautiful, it doesn't need new graphics. I just don't like pretending to fight someone.

[Xterminator]

Originally Posted by Galdor

new super awesome graphics would make me give it a try I guess, and cool background sound effects for the levels to help giving a feel of a place.

Lol like WoW when you level up with the gold effects too. Would be cool though if you bring back the leveling system to have that aswell :P

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

What would bring me back to Valikorlia? Asca Dagnir, or similar. I know many people are against this, but I am a true Valikorlian, and I want to see the old kingdoms back. The Valikorlia that exists now is not the Valikorlia that I knew and once appreciated it.

To be fair time has moved on in the RP world, but that doesn't mean the old Valikorlian gameplay we all loved should have changed, though.

The current generation of players (from what I've heard) are all strictly against a level up/battle system...but they're not being true Valikorlians if they take such a stance

Originally Posted by Galdor

new super awesome graphics would make me give it a try I guess, and cool background sound effects for the levels to help giving a feel of a place.

They already have this. Valikorlia has (and has always had for as long as I've played it(no i dont rp xD)) nice heads/bodies and recently updated levels to use a new tileset. I think it's just a matter of the right LAT putting it together.

[WarriorCam]

I've been aware that Val needs a PVP/economy system for some time, actually. The problem isn't that I don't know it needs it (believe me, I know) the problem is finding someone who's willing (and able) to make it.

The current generation is NOT entirely against a PVP/economy system. Most are against a level-up system, true, and I don't plan on making one to be honest, though there will be progression of sorts. Many players are actually accepting of a combat and economic system, though there are always a few who don't like the idea and think I'm trying to turn the server into Zodiac and annihilate all roleplaying (which I would never do).

[Crono]

Originally Posted by WarriorCam

Most are against a level-up system, true, and I don't plan on making one to be honest, though there will be progression of sorts.

[DarkRenji]

Not haveing to wait 3 weeks for my weapons to be uploaded : (.

[Vima]

It seems so confusing. How does the server work?
Do I need to like PM a staff to register or something like that? I don't understand.
It seems so hard. It's not newbie friendly.

[Pimmeh]

Originally Posted by Vima

It seems so confusing. How does the server work?
Do I need to like PM a staff to register or something like that? I don't understand.
It seems so hard. It's not newbie friendly.

This

[Darklux]

Well real roleplay is impossible without access control... Only look at graal kingdoms or the so called role play servers of a big common mmorpg.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Pimmeh

This

Was never a problem, Val was successful before and it's RP system is more or less the same.

[Pimmeh]

Originally Posted by Crono

Was never a problem, Val was successful before and it's RP system is more or less the same.

I am disagreeing with you here.
I have often experienced newbies who just got yelled at for RPing like rubbish.
Hell, even I yelled at them from time to time.
"GTFO!!!"
So yeah... Maybe a starting guide?

[DarkIceX]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I see very few Valikorlian oldbies around anymore. When I log on I instantly remember how wonderful it was back 00-03. Before Clash got manager (no offense, Clash) I loved Valikorlia. What would bring me back to Valikorlia? Asca Dagnir, or similar. I know many people are against this, but I am a true Valikorlian, and I want to see the old kingdoms back. The Valikorlia that exists now is not the Valikorlia that I knew and once appreciated it.

You don't know how much I agree with this post. Whenever I log on Valikorlia now, I wonder why it just can't be the same as it was then :[

Over 2 years, I spent hours on Valikorlia during that time - I'm not sure why I quit after..

P.S: Alkaria was the best.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Pimmeh

I am disagreeing with you here.
I have often experienced newbies who just got yelled at for RPing like rubbish.
Hell, even I yelled at them from time to time.
"GTFO!!!"
So yeah... Maybe a starting guide?

How can you disagree with facts? Val had a ton of players in 02-04 and it's RP system was more or less the same as it is today.

P.S: Alkaria was the best.

*cough*nawtsees*cough*

[DarkIceX]

*cough*nawtsees*cough*

You're just jealous we owned you!!!!

[Crono]

Originally Posted by DarkIceX

You're just jealous we owned you!!!!

Asca till I die. Even if we had really fruity elves!

[WarriorCam]

Keep in mind we want to attract new players as well as old players back without sacrificing our current playerbase. A lot of them don't want to see old nations come back, even some of the older players would rather create new things. Yeah, old Val seems great in memories, rose colored glasses and all that, but I am hesitant to bring back too many old nations. It just seems like too much time has passed, and that they've been dead for 4+ years and should remain buried. That isn't to say you won't ever see any old nations pop up (just last year there was a bit of a revival of Athedia) but if they do it has to be in a way that makes sense.

[Cassy]

(oops, lol.. haven't posted in a while and now remember why :P)

As far as audience goes, part of the argument is whether or not to change its niche, which can further be reduced to the ideals of text-based adventures over graphical presentations of self. Some players have a natural affinity towards reading, to feed on stimuli for the imagination; others require the adrenal rush for life-or-death reflexes, pushing them to their furthest limits.

For me, I've always felt inclined towards roleplaying and naturally found interest in Valikorlia (and Kharlia, for that matter). Then, upon curiousity of other roleplaying options, I decided to act on exploring the worlds of Era and Maloria, each with their different amount of doses and enjoying every single part of it. Eventually came complete detachment from Valikorlia itself. When trying to come back, this very thought of why and how this change of dynamics took place crossed my mind on more than one occasion.

Starting in black and white, text can only describe settings and takes into effort to capture the moment into words. It would be impossible to make a photographically recreate a setting into another's head, especially if it isn't something the recipient can relate to. Visible actions can do wonders with concepts of the imagination, lasting a lifetime and ironically forming stories of their own.

For that to happen, however, takes time and development-- there is no sense of instant gratification without having to deal with the associated red tape and bureaucracies (queue the nuances between working on a server and playing one). In other words, the level of interactivity and depth of text-based gameplay is unmatched.

Also to take into consideration is the type of players attracted within; look at each server we have today and you can ask someone to make stereotypical impression of each. Most of the roleplaying mindset cringe at reluctance of cooperation, or at the extreme the thought of their characters thoughtlessly hacked-and-slashed away, despite existing roleplaying controls.

Should a hardcoded gameplay system be placed to quench various levels in their hierarchy of needs, the addition of players always tend to throw in the end-all wrench known as balance. And, of course, we all know how that goes.

To accomplish such an equilibrium to integrate and satisfy both literary and graphical audiences would be a feat in itself but at the same time will be a server definately worth trying.

Valikorlia ('00-'04)
Dawn Skylark Xanthica (Valikorlia)
Reiya Twilight Rubeus (Empyria)

Era ('03-'07)
<insert lots of randomness>

Kingdoms ('03-'07)
<some stuff here, too>

Maloria ('05-'07)
Acacia Hesperides (Nayfle)

Oh, and before that.. Classic all the way!
-Cassy (TAW)

[jorollychu]

if my account worked there and someone would reset it for me so i could enable the gani weapons

[WarriorCam]

That's certainly the plan, Cassy.

I'd encourage anyone interested in Valikorlia's development to check out my blog.

[excaliber7388]

Only reason I don't play is because it's a roleplaying server.

[Oni]

Ok, i've seen some pretty corrupt staff teams and been abused by retarted staff before. But Valikorlia beats it all hands down.

It all started with me and my friend silverice just wandering into this server that we never even thought of going to, because RPING? thats pretty *** but we went to try it out anyways.

We go there and IMMEDIATELY get labled as trolls because we just talk normally and dont use OOC (DIDNT KNOW ABOUT IT) and dont talk in character or some sht. OK so were labled as trolls and immediately random ass people from EVERYWERE just start warping us around, jailing us, and all kinds of corrupt sht!

Ok most of the times people deserved to be jailed or banned or w/e and maybe THAT time we deserved a punishment because we were just being jerks. But then heres were the corruption starts.


Me and my friend silverice actually start trying to rp now. And i meen being nice rp, we go around journey into some badly created forrest with nasty gfx everywere and here we go, round 1, we start rping.

We sit down because some text battle is happening and THESE ARE THE EXACT WORDS WE SAY! NO EDITING OF ANY SORT.

"Hey brother lets sit here and spy on the battle" "Ok"

Then suddenly some person goes on staff tag,(BECAUSE 90 PERCENT OF THE SERVER IS STAFF) and says EXACTLY ---> (Can I abuse them please? I just love it when troll noobs come in disrupting RP) after that he warps us on a few trees, warps us into blackness, throws us into ooc 1,000 times and from here on CONSTANTLY were being harrased by players that have staff ppowers.

Sorry but its to much for me to say, soo much corrupt im not even joking around or making it bigger then it is, stuff like this happened literally 6-10 times.

Ok youd think there would be some high staff there to say "ok enough is enough guys stop pickin on the noobs" but there isnt?!
NO ONE ANSWERS THEIR RC! NEVER. NOT ONCE. EVEN THE MANAGER AND CO MANAGER WTFS ?!?!!??!

I can tell you many more storys just pm me or somethin but literally i cant beleive i didnt get this sht on cam, when i get UNBANNED (Banned because I was in character trying to rally townspeople to overthrow the king. BUT RP'ing it!) im filming this, ive been jailed literally 3254254 times, i dont even kno by who.

Pretty much your !@##$ because everyone is a staff, everyone is corrupt, everyone is a stiff poindexter tight wad, and you have no one NO ONE to back you up because no one answers their RC.