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Old 12-07-2004, 10:05 PM
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Old 12-07-2004, 10:54 PM
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the grass over grass bothers me a little. house looks alright. I like the shape of the cliffs. trees look good. good job
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Old 12-07-2004, 11:34 PM
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Now I know this is rich coming for me the noobie guy. Maybe reather petty too, perhaps no at all what you are looking for, but it was the fisrt thing that stuck out to me (Attatchement thing).

Would in not make sence to go 'red to red' as you have done on 'blue to blue'?

I'm with Gerami on the grass on grass thing. Some parts look good but in other parts it just seems to stop dead.

I like the over all look though.

Please don't hate me for posting this heh.

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Old 12-08-2004, 04:10 AM
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I like the idea of the overgrowth of grass like that. Very unique, never seen it done before.

As for the pole wrap tile thingies, very minor thing a player wouldn't notice unless they were carefully scrutinizing everything about the level. Not that big of a deal.
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Old 12-08-2004, 09:31 AM
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Old 12-08-2004, 11:02 AM
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anyway the grass thing is pretty much for not overtiling the level, my personal feeling about levels is not spamming it with tiles.. Beacuse then it will just look like a big mess.. I could fix some places here and there
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Old 12-08-2004, 06:43 PM
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As for the pole wrap tile thingies, very minor thing a player wouldn't notice unless they were carefully scrutinizing everything about the level. Not that big of a deal.
I think I’d disagree with parts of that. Although, yes it is a small thing and doesn't really matter, for me at least, my eye went straight to the house because it is almost the focal point if the level, stands out from just the vegetation etc. Also the NPC you look at, and well, I just think continuity make a map look better.

Although, I don’t want to fall out over it, just my opinion. Although, having said that, I am new to the whole level making thing.

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Old 12-08-2004, 06:47 PM
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Its no big deal really, you can change that in 1 second.. Its not like because of that the player is gonna go "OMG THIS LEVELS SUX PLEASE"..
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Old 12-08-2004, 09:52 PM
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tbh that clifing is supreme, did u do it?
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Old 12-09-2004, 01:18 AM
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Not a bad level at all, I found a few things you should take a look at however.

Red - Tile Error
Blue - I don't like something in blue
Green - I'm unsure if it is an error on your behalf or the tileset.


I kinda like how you are getting comfortable with unique grass styling and such, but like, I don't like those two grass-things circled in blue.

The cliffs are either mising shadows, or you are using the bottoms of the cliffs that have shadows on them. There are "shadowless" cliff bottoms.

Oh, and on the top its kinda bare. Other than that its a fairly well put together level.

(I missed a few errors, but I hope you find them. )
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Old 12-09-2004, 03:35 AM
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Old 12-09-2004, 11:23 AM
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Ok if you think its bad tell me why, I said give a comment? I guess you must have been blind.
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Old 12-09-2004, 02:02 PM
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Old 12-09-2004, 04:08 PM
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Old 12-09-2004, 04:15 PM
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Cluttered, horrible cliffs, no sense of perspective.
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Old 12-09-2004, 04:43 PM
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no sense of perspective.
Then what is the "right" perspective? For you?
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Then what is the "right" perspective?
A coherent one.
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:01 PM
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exalibur, he isnt going to edit the tileset for one level ..And the cliffs cant be fixed, i dont think.. i think u went too crazy on the editing bit
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:15 PM
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I would have to agree wtih Kaimetsu on this.
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:44 PM
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lol ok im a bad level maker and everything, thx
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:41 PM
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no you're not..
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Old 12-09-2004, 11:15 PM
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Old 12-10-2004, 11:18 AM
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jaffer, you're working on zhalla, zhalla's leveling team only hire the beest.. or some new people wan hires who he teaches..
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:47 PM
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exalibur, he isnt going to edit the tileset for one level ..And the cliffs cant be fixed, i dont think.. i think u went too crazy on the editing bit
Forgot about this post for some reason.

Anyway, editing the tileset for one level? IF there is an error with the cliffs, fixing it would be for all levels, would it not?
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Old 12-10-2004, 09:01 PM
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jaffer dosnt do maps, just random levels.. lol
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Old 12-11-2004, 01:48 AM
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It looks like something I made a year ago.
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Old 12-11-2004, 01:53 AM
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It looks like something I made a year ago.
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Old 12-11-2004, 07:58 AM
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Ok if you think its bad tell me why, I said give a comment? I guess you must have been blind.

I wasn't blind before I saw the level.

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evidence!

jaffer, you're working on zhalla, zhalla's leveling team only hire the beest.. or some new people wan hires who he teaches..

Wan is still around? Haven't talked to him in awhile. I like Wan but he just "*****s" his levels around from server to server.
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Old 12-11-2004, 10:48 AM
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true, hes calmed down now.. its only like 2 servers now.. 1 with spark and 1 on his own ill get himto him you later if I remember..

jafer, on't give up u have some potential!
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Old 12-11-2004, 12:07 PM
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Old 12-11-2004, 08:30 PM
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Seems like your detail is just going in a diagonal line down the level between the house and first set of cliffs.
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Old 12-30-2004, 09:08 PM
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* House needs a door.
* Where are the cliffs in the lower right hand corner going?
* Old man, Uneccesary.
* Better shadows.
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Old 12-30-2004, 11:35 PM
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Old 12-31-2004, 01:15 AM
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Old 12-31-2004, 02:32 PM
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The level looks good for me.. I just didnt like the shadown errors.. all the rest look pretty good. congrats =)
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npc content is actually good because the level has something other than tiles.
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-Cliffs are not done properly.
-Shadows don't connect properly.
-What happened to the path to the house? It's there, then it isn't, then it is, then it isn't. Have a path or don't, but don't try to compromise both choices.
-Why are there random green path tiles everywhere? That, and random fence posts everywhere, are all of a sudden common. Was there a farm years ago with fenceposts and garden paths? Was it built of steel to survive the tectonic plate movements that changed the landscape to a mountainous terrain?
-Random outdoor chair. Could have put something else there to justify having a chair there. Flower bed? Garden? Table?
-Second floor of house connects weird to first floor at the sides. As levels makers, we've all felt tempted to use those tiles to try to be creative, but there is no adequate bottom as a tile for those. Perhaps try using other tiles or an npc bottom (I believe one exists for the door frame like that).

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I like your grass over the grass parts. It seems somewhat realistic and shows creativity. I haven't seen anybody try that before, and I've gone through plenty of player levels in my time.
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Old 01-06-2005, 10:55 PM
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This level forum will never change. You'd think there would be a different level style by now.
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This level forum will never change. You'd think there would be a different level style by now.
Why i changed to Era, I find it more fun and better.
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