Re-Add Server Backups

cbk1994 · #1 05-31-2010, 07:51 AM

It's ridiculous to not backup servers. Besides the fact that glitches or whatever can ruin the server's economy (or a rogue staff can delete things), what happens if there's another problem like this?

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Originally Posted by Stefan

The servers have been moved to the new machine. For most servers we were able to upload the latest content, but for some servers we had to use a backup which is a few days old (last friday or so). Sorry for any problems. As compensation we have added one week of dev subscription to everyone with an active subscription.
The /global servercontrol is currently not working, but we plan to bring that back in a few days.

Imagine losing over a month of work (last backups for Era are in mid April) instead of just a few days. That would literally make me want to give up whatever project I was working on.

Demisis_P2P · #2 05-31-2010, 08:55 AM

I don't know why they would have even stopped doing backups.

At the very least they should have daily backups for the last 7 days, weekly backups for the last 3 months and then quarterly backups after that.

Seich · #3 05-31-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

I don't know why they would have even stopped doing backups.

At the very least they should have daily backups for the last 7 days, weekly backups for the last 3 months and then quarterly backups after that.

Yeah, something like this would be appropriate. It is certainly a ridiculous idea to have us create our own backups (most of us do have and make backups regularly but, having another automatic backup is good just in case...) specially since creating backups is a tedious task.

Imperialistic · #4 05-31-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

I don't know why they would have even stopped doing backups.

it takes effort, and stefan goes out of his way to stay out of the way of effort.

cbk1994 · #5 05-31-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Imperialistic

it takes effort, and stefan goes out of his way to stay out of the way of effort.

The backups were automatic, he didn't make them manually.

Deas_Voice · #6 05-31-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

The backups were automatic, he didn't make them manually.

so what's the issue then?
if it was automatic, no manpower was needed to do it, why stop?

shame on you CJ/EC/or-what-ever-you-guys-call-youself-now-days

cbk1994 · #7 05-31-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

so what's the issue then?
if it was automatic, no manpower was needed to do it, why stop?

shame on you CJ/EC/or-what-ever-you-guys-call-youself-now-days

The issue was that it made the servers lag, which was true at one point but if I recall correctly it was eventually fixed. If it wasn't, it should just be fixed instead of completely removed.

Cloven · #8 05-31-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

The issue was that it made the servers lag, which was true at one point but if I recall correctly it was eventually fixed. If it wasn't, it should just be fixed instead of completely removed.

Or at the very least the backups could be done any time within the 6-10 hours each day that the playercount is minimal. Heck, even if that were done weekly it would be acceptable -- pick a day.

LordSquirt · #9 05-31-2010, 04:58 PM

I remember it used to back Era up at around 4AM when the playercount was pretty much null. However, I think they fixed the lag problem over time.

SlikRick · #10 05-31-2010, 05:22 PM

We can make back-ups of the servers all we want but there are things we can't back up that were done in the server back-ups that Graal did. In situations like Era's, they would have been able to restore a back-up of the server to the day before all the weapons and everything were spawned, and restore peoples profiles, including their weapons and everything, so they would not be having to do a possible premature reset.

cbk1994 · #11 06-26-2010, 12:19 PM

Bump because I don't want Era to have to roll back four months (to April backups) if a hard drive dies again (or any of countless other scenarios).

Either add a convenient way for server staff to back up everything, including account data, or re-add automatic backups. It's ridiculous and just plain stupid to remove them.

Matt · #12 06-26-2010, 06:43 PM

I agree 100%, why take away auto backups, and give yourself more work and stress on your shoulders, Stefan? I'm sure your inbox wouldn't be so packed also.

Jiroxys7 · #13 07-03-2010, 10:09 AM

Server Backups would be extremely helpful.

napo_p2p · #14 07-03-2010, 10:29 AM

I wonder if Stefan did full copies each time, or if he did incremental backups...

Inverness · #15 07-05-2010, 04:16 AM

It's not hard to make the servers backup when the playercount is minimal. Deciding not to do backups because "it lags" is a terrible and ignorant excuse.