Rules Update!

[papajchris]

To deal with the lack of concern player’s have over their weapons, and to help players feel motivated to use the security features we have in place, (example, itemtrade, money trade, etc.) we have changed the rule of how scamming works. Scamming is still ILLEGAL, however, how we go about dealing with it has changed. The scammer will be banned for 7 days for the 1st offense, 30 days for the 2nd offense, and then a 10 year ban for the 3rd offense. The items that are scammed will either be auctioned off, or deleted. If the scammer no longer has the items/money, we will remove items/money from the scammer to make-up for the loss. If a scammer does not attempt to hide the scammed item and tells the truth when confronted by a PR, he or she will be jailed if it is their first offense instead of being banned.

If you use one of our security measures, and still get scammed, you will get a full refund!

I would also like to add that we are getting stricter on the heads and bodies that are allowed onto Era. In no way are invisible heads/bodies or other copyrighted images allowed. (Yes that means Pokémon heads) We are working on removing them all, so while some may be around right now, they will not be for long.

If you have any questions on the rules, you can read them by pressing N on Era an clicking the "information" tab.

[cbk1994]

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by papajchris

If the scammer no longer has the items/money, we will remove items/money from the scammer to make-up for the loss

Wait, what? Don't you have logs that allow you to trace items and revert everything instead?

[papajchris]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Wait, what? Don't you have logs that allow you to trace items and revert everything instead?

We will try to get the item back, but if it's just to far traded, we may just take an item of about the same value. Figure that would have been assumed

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by papajchris

To deal with the lack of concern player’s have over their pixels

If you use one of our security measures, and still get scammed, you will get a full refund!

I would also like to add that we are getting stricter

Its clearly stated in multiple places you shouldn't have to be re-posting it. If a player gets scammed it is their fault, just re-legalize it since 90% of the guns are illegally obtained anyway.

What security measures? Are you guys gonna introduce prices and put trade limits like RS?

Lol, gg heads/bodies, gg.

[Elizabeth]

10 year ban lol

[Luda]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

10 year ban lol

this

[kia345]

If your server has things that can be done to even merit a 10 year ban, you're obviously doing something wrong.

[papajchris]

Originally Posted by Luda

this

I couldn't figure out what to call it. Unlimited ban? infinite ban? So i just went with the straight forward ban 10 years xD.

@rogue, the security measures i was referring to are the ones that are in parenthesis's at in my OP. "/itemtrade <account>" "/trade <amount> to <account>" or pming a PR before drop trading/lending items.

[MontyPython]

Originally Posted by papajchris

To deal with the lack of concern player’s have over their weapons, and to help players feel motivated to use the security features we have in place, (example, itemtrade, money trade, etc.) we have changed the rule of how scamming works. Scamming is still ILLEGAL, however, how we go about dealing with it has changed. The scammer will be banned for 7 days for the 1st offense, 30 days for the 2nd offense, and then a 10 year ban for the 3rd offense.

This is absolutely absurd. 10 year ban for three scamming offenses? If the players have a lack of concern over their weapons, that's none of your business. It's their game, their items. Raising the penalty for scamming is quite possibly the stupidest fix you could add to combat it. No wonder they're using a no-name lackey like you to announce this ****, they're too embarassed to do it themselves (It is a joke though, right?).

Here's your job: Supply people with a legitimate means to trade. Ensure they're informed about it. Then you're done. If they **** up and refuse to use it, it's not your job to refund their item. Oh, they're crying now. So what? They didn't use the systems in place. It's not your job to babysit the players. It's not your job to supply the intellect and common sense they don't have.

Here's your fix: Supply people with a legitimate safe way to trade. Getting a theme here? (spoiler: this ****'s exactly the same as the first paragraph) Good. It's done. Any other form of trade is deemed as unofficial (any scams involving deviant trading systems are legal), thereby not receiving support from the staff. You monitor the trading system to make sure it isn't broken/glitchable. You're done. Don't do lends. Don't do stupid ****.

Originally Posted by papajchris

If you use one of our security measures, and still get scammed, you will get a full refund!

This is the only instance where refund + scammer punishment should be enforced, but only only only if we're talking about tampering with systems to get free items. Trade window glitches have supposedly occurred in the past, though I've never had a problem with the system. Ever (anecdotal evidence is the best kind). But my point is this: Do NOT reverse/refund "scams" that involve Johnny thinking he's getting a better deal/item than he really is. Yes, if Johnny is stupid enough to think a Blade is a Katana and he trades away his Sten for it, he deserves to lose it. And whoever gets that Sten should decide its fate.



For a server based on gangs, guns, and violence, this server has a hell of a lot of baby sitting and tissue distribution.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by MontyPython

Stuff

Have my babies. This is EXACTLY how it should be. I'd type a wall of text about it but you guys don't listen so whats the point.

Prepare these kids for reality. I'd love to see one of them get their bike stolen or loan their friend their IPod and think crying to the police would make it automatically appear back to them. Honestly, this game is supposed to be 13+ age or something, you already gave them swear filters, stop holding their hands.

[Crono]

sweet, someone scam my mp5 so i can get u banned for 10 years

[Tigairius]

I'm very pleased with this announcement. It's good that players will have some sort of backup if they're getting scammed, been a long time coming. Possibly only provide a set amount of scam restores before telling players they're on their own though. This way players aren't just being careless and wasting staffs time. "Oh well, I know if I get scammed I'll get restored, so sure weird shady guy I've never met, you can borrow my gun."

[nullify]

Originally Posted by Crono

sweet, someone scam my mp5 so i can get u banned for 10 years

hay can i borow ur mp5 plz?

[MontyPython]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I'm very pleased with this announcement. It's good that players will have some sort of backup if they're getting scammed, been a long time coming. Possibly only provide a set amount of scam restores before telling players they're on their own though. This way players aren't just being careless and wasting staffs time.

Players should be using trade systems put into place. Their backup is if these systems fail in some way.

Backup should not be encouraging their lack of common sense by not allowing "bad things" to happen to them.

You're actually pleased with the announcement that scammers can get banned for 10 years? You realize that if everyone was intelligent and used the trading systems in place, scamming wouldn't be able to exist at all. Which is why you shouldn't make it illegal, because once you do everyone becomes lazy and complacent. And why shouldn't they, when they've got an infinite number of restores and kleenex boxes in their name?

A set number of restores would never work. You people will never stick to it. Just think of how many "last last last (seriously) last chance for [x] guy" you globals pass out. Trust me, if there's one thing you learn on Era (and Graal in general), it's that if you cry long enough and loudly enough, you'll get what you want.

Originally Posted by Tigairius

"Oh well, I know if I get scammed I'll get restored, so sure weird shady guy I've never met, you can borrow my gun."

Exactly how it's been ever since scamming was deemed illegal. Yes, I'm talking about before the Illustrious Ten Year Exile plan was put into action.