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Old 05-25-2014, 07:31 PM
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The reason I don't believe in this is because there is absolutely nothing with the current system that stops the best PKers from giving themselves competition by joining other gangs. They all join up into super gangs because it's easier, they're not active enough to lead a gang on their own, and they're too lazy to put individual effort into winning (they'd rather just get free ECs each week). The only reason raiding even exists today is that groups of friends get into some degree of rivalry with each other; like Cory and his friends always wanting to take out whatever gang the Souls are in. If people actually believe a more challenging raiding environment would be more stimulating, then why on earth doesn't half of Merc split off and try to start a new gang?

The draft system isn't going to make raiding or gang activity intrinsically more fun or rewarding. People are still gonna idle at unstick me and complain about how boring raiding is.

We could have implemented some kind of incentive system that made it so more people would want to work themselves to a higher rank within a gang. IE if only the top 3 members of the top gang got ECs; suddenly everyone would be just as concerned with being top 3 in their gang as they are with their gang being top 3 in Era. It would make it a lot less desirable to be in a super gang, because there's no chance you would get top 3 anyways.

We could have also revamped gang bases; done something like Slash talks about where you punish gangs for having their bases taken over. Maybe they can only get gang guns if they own their base, or maybe they lose points for every second someone else has control over it. That would actually fundamentally change raiding, and give people a reason to do something besides constantly raiding BH. And it would do so without completely ditching a functioning gang system and rebuilding a new one that may or may not even work from scratch.

All we're doing right now with the drafts system is shuffling people around constantly, destroying the entire idea of loyalty, and making everyone even less connected to their gangs/bases/etc. Whichever team is number 1 is going to be number 1 for that week, and everyone on the other teams will say "ah hell, what's it matter, I'll get on a better team next week" and spend the next 6 days idling at unstick me. They don't have to worry about their gang being deleted, and they don't really have to worry about their stats for the week (because everyone already knows who is a good PKer and who isn't; Wil could be offline for four weeks and sign on one day for drafts and he would be the first pick hands down).

In it's simplest terms, how does the draft system make anyone more interested in raiding? I really don't understand what anyone thinks this will change. I would assume that 9 out of 10 weeks, there will be a gang that is just flat-out better than the other three, and you'll just have a rotating Merc gang that makes everyone else lose interest in raiding by Tuesday of that week.

I don't know, I have done zero development for the new drafts system, and I don't really participate that much in gangs these days, so as far as I'm concerned you can have at it. I just personally think you're all shooting yourselves in the foot, and thought I would try to save you the time and effort of switching and then switching back. If you're all so sure you want to move forward with a brand new system without ever considering the implications and trying to identify the actual root of the problem, then be my guest. I've had a fair share of consulting experience in real life though, and I've seen plenty of these kinds of projects, and I can tell you with almost certainty where this is going.

This is going to be my last post on the matter - I'm pretty tired of trying to start constructive conversations just to be shot down with "We have to put the system in, and THEN we can worry about fixing the problems" and "At least we're doing SOMETHING!" I personally think the "something" we're doing is spinning in circles; but again, not my place to decide.

I'll try to stay out of this system now, and will also try to avoid the "I-told-you-so's" if I end up being right. Good luck to you all.
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