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draygin 05-13-2003 06:51 AM

Power hungry
 
So as you all know Jeff resigned. In the mean time Tseng being his usual power hungry self is trying to force his way into power. He kept begging Stefan to make him manager all night and give him the rights. Stefan said no, James gave Tseng all the rights and removed his own (I dont blame him considering what was going on) I speak out against Tseng for him being power hungry and he removes my RC. Something he has absolutly no right to do as he isn't the Manager. This is exactly why I was against him being manager and continue to be. He is power hungry and a hypocrite as he continued to show over and over through out the RC chat last night. Personally I dont care that I lost my RC. Just less work for me. But I do care about an idiot like him trying to force his way into power after Stefan specifically stated it would be decided later. Something about this needs to be done. I'm also PMing stefan on the matter. If Tseng does manage to get it the server is worst off than ever before. The last thing a server needs is a fool like him in power. James had all the rights necessary and the competence to hold the position until Stefan decided. Not have an idiot like Tseng come alon and keep trying to force his will upon others Stefan included.

Ghost Pirate 05-13-2003 07:15 AM

Isn't that Global Scripter Team not enable him from being a manager on servers...or is that just playerworld team thing?

Androk 05-13-2003 02:48 PM

Tseng, power hungry? Yes maybe, but it doesn't matter, as long as he does a good job on 2k1...

draygin 05-13-2003 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by Androk
Tseng, power hungry? Yes maybe, but it doesn't matter, as long as he does a good job on 2k1...
It does matter because he's not manager and he's trying to force his way into it even after Stefan specifically said no he would look into it later. Tseng is just trying to strong arm his way into the position and has absolutly no authorization to do so.

Tseng 05-13-2003 04:31 PM

I have nothing to prove to you, madmartigan. But, I will humor you by showing everyone else just how wrong you are.

The fact that you refused to accept anything stefan said; or even to give me a chance, combined with the fact that you proved over and over that you were blinded by ignorance, is why you were removed. Your continued negativity, combined with your outrageously inflated ego, would only serve to bring the server down instead of up. (And I'm not the only member of the staff to think so.)

James and I will most likely be working together to fix graal2001. As I said before - your judgements of me were based on lack of knowledge. You are not qualified to judge me, as you do not know my history with graal2001.

It was my fault that Jeff became manager in the first place...I never like suggesting myself for anything, but after seeing what has been done to the server when other people manage? How could I bear to put my trust in anyone else again, after seeing the server die...

Well, I am putting my trust in myself, and also with James.

My current idea/hope is that James and I can both be (Manager)s, as I have much respect for him and his abilities.

What we are doing is getting together with Stefan and the rest of the staff to figure out graal2001's direction, etc.

Oh, and for the record, to correct another of your ignorant statements Madmartigan (If you can't even pay attention to what's said in RC, how could you judge me based on actions you don't know about?) Stefan's words were that James should give me whatever rights he felt appropriate.

draygin 05-13-2003 04:41 PM

You're so full of yourself its pathetic. You kept begging Stefan over and over to make you manager. He finally told you to just shut up but in a nicer way of I heard you the first few times you said it. Stefan specifically said no we would decide manager. I was the one who pointed out James had the rights needed to hire more staff and run things until Stefan decided on a new manager and he agreed. He said James had the ability to give rights as needed. Not to give you level 4 RC and manage things. You're just a power hungry idiot trying to get into power. I dont know the history of 2001? LOL and when did you start playing again? My only negativity is in keeping idiots like you from strong arming your way into power. With which your last post you've already proven you're trying to do. You have absolutly 0 authority to remove me. You're not an admin you're even muscling James. He was quitting because of your stupidity which is why he gave you all the rights and tooka way his own. Which I dont blame him I wouldnt want to put up with a power hungry idiot like you either.

Tseng 05-13-2003 04:52 PM

*laughs* why don't you wait until James speaks for himself? You are committing a grave falacy; two, even, and they are assuming both that you know everything, and assuming that everyone agrees with you.

*You are trying to use status as an "oldbie" to claim knowledge, but you were absent for a large part of the time I was staff on graal2001; you do not know what I did, nor do you know what I am capable of.
*Note how your ego gets bigger every minute. You really better stop that - when it pops, it's gonna hurt :(
*Stefan did not tell me to shut up. He did ask me to stop repeating myself, as I was guilty of saying the same thing more than once (one of my statements about being sad about how things went, I believe).

Muscling James? By the way, I spoke to him last night, and we will be working together for the common good.

Again, please don't put words in other people's mouths (Stefan's, James', Mine), as that only makes you look more foolish. Thank you :)

draygin 05-13-2003 05:02 PM

Just because you didnt see me doesnt mean I wasnt around or wasnt keeping up to date with what was going on in graal. If that was the case I obviously wouldnt have gotten VIP within 2 days of it being announced.

No I'm not using any status as an oldbie. You said I didnt know the history of 2k1. But yet obviously I would know it better than you since you havnt been playing that long.

Yes repeating yourself constantly. With things along the lines of.

I'm so sad with how graal bomy moon is, I should be manager I cant trust any one else to do it. (like it matters if you trust them or not?)

I've been hurt so many times by the Managers of GBM thats why I should be manager.

Things over and over of that nature. As if you're the only one who has been let down by previous actions.

Tseng 05-13-2003 05:05 PM

Everyone was let down, including myself.

Why else would I have changed my opinion on becoming manager?

How about you ask the many people who always IMed me telling me I should be manager...ask them how many times I told them "No, I don't want to be manager."

My attitude changed when I saw what was happening to the server.

Just SOME of the people you can ask on this:

--Chris--
Wyroko
Kae
Kyden
Androk
Karsh

Ask them how many times I said no. ;x

draygin 05-13-2003 05:15 PM

and if you had said yes, I'll be the manager that would have made a difference how? You still seem to think you're manager. You are not manager you're a nobody who has managed to get temporary control despite Stefan's wishes. He specifically said a Manager would be decided later after he looked people and things over. So no matter how you say "James and I have decided to manage together" It's not up to you it doesnt matter if you've decided that or not.

James 05-13-2003 05:19 PM

Whoa, this is seriously getting out of hand. The primary reason I gave Tseng all of my rights and took away my own was because I wanted what was best for the server. I know I couldn't do half as good of a job on my best day as Tseng would on his worst. Besides, all of the staffers seemed to appoint Tseng for the job and I figured I'd give them what they want to see. I guess as Tseng already stated, we both plan to be equal managers. We're just going to need to wait and see what happens.

Moblojoe 05-13-2003 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by draygin
You're so full of yourself its pathetic
Hahaha, I find that quite funny when it comes out of your mouth XD

Waltz5 05-13-2003 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by draygin
and if you had said yes, I'll be the manager that would have made a difference how? You still seem to think you're manager. You are not manager you're a nobody who has managed to get temporary control despite Stefan's wishes. He specifically said a Manager would be decided later after he looked people and things over. So no matter how you say "James and I have decided to manage together" It's not up to you it doesnt matter if you've decided that or not.
Actually Stefan was a "Yes" away form making Tseng Manager some time ago.

Also, you said he had no right to remove you? If he didn't then how could he have in the first place?

And don't say anything about Tseng being corrupt or whatever by him removing you for speaking against him, because Jeff did it too.

Googi 05-13-2003 10:33 PM

I think that Tseng should be manager, but I do not think that Madmartigan should have been fired.

draygin 05-13-2003 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Googi
I think that Tseng should be manager, but I do not think that Madmartigan should have been fired.
If Stefan had appointed him manager then I would have had no problems with what was going on. As for being fired it doesnt bother me in the slightest. As I stated earlier that night I was contemplating resigning with the current state of things. But I had agreed to wait to see how things would be run after finding out Jeff had resigned and Stefan would be appointing a new manager. I can make levels just as easily on my own as I can working on GBM. This way I get to make what I want and not worry about deadlines. :) It's no loss to me either way.

draygin 05-13-2003 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Waltz5

Actually Stefan was a "Yes" away form making Tseng Manager some time ago.

Also, you said he had no right to remove you? If he didn't then how could he have in the first place?

And don't say anything about Tseng being corrupt or whatever by him removing you for speaking against him, because Jeff did it too.

It's your opinion Stefan was a yes away from making him Manager. The fact is he is not the manager. See the difference?

Simple if you would bother to read and comprehend the posts you would see that I've already answered this.

Big difference Jeff was the *gasp* Manager. Tseng was going strictly against what Jeff wanted undermining his authority reenabling staff toys after Jeff specifically said no. So yes I can safely call him corrupt as he didnt have the authority to do what he did and Jeff was more than justified for having him removed.

draygin 05-13-2003 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Moblojoe

Hahaha, I find that quite funny when it comes out of your mouth XD

You dont have to worry about making responses like these Wryoko you've already shown your stupidity and ignorance on countless other occasions and posts on how you're a sad excuse for an RP Admin no need to continue here.

Moblojoe 05-13-2003 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by draygin


You dont have to worry about making responses like these Wryoko you've already shown your stupidity and ignorance on countless other occasions

I have, have I? Mind posting a few of these 'Ignorant Posts'?

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Originally posted by draygin

you're a sad excuse for an RP Admin no need to continue here.

You weren't too good at your job either, You just *****ed and complained half the time and never really did any work =/

Also I'm glad you were fired, Hell Most of the staff were.

Milkdude99 05-13-2003 11:26 PM

Hey Guys don't you think this would have been better done in private?? Mainly because this kind of thread is forbidden in the rules... Concerns of a PW or its Management is to be discussed with Nem or the PWA but in this case because it is 2001 and a Graal Server, Stefan is the one to see and I am sure he will not appreciate it being dragged onto these Forums like this. :\
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12. Posting negatively about Graal or Graal staff is not allowed. (posts discussing
poor management, bad decisions, Graal sucks, etc) If you need to
discuss this, do it privately or somewhere else.

Kramer 05-13-2003 11:30 PM

I think Kae should be manager because he's cool :D lol

anyway, forum fighting isn't fun, so work it out.

draygin 05-13-2003 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Moblojoe

I have, have I? Mind posting a few of these 'Ignorant Posts'?


You weren't too good at your job either, You just *****ed and complained half the time and never really did any work =/

Also I'm glad you were fired, Hell Most of the staff were.

I could but then again any one who really cares can go back and search just as easily as I can.

Ok lets see I wasnt to good at my job either.. But yet aside from Androck's Mushroom job and my making levels some which where never released because "They wanted to release everything in one big update" What other work is done? I have quite a few projects I had done which I still have was saving for this "Big release" But I dont think I'll turn in now. :) The only thing I complained about is the inactivity of the other staff and them not doing anything yourself included. God love those active kingdoms we've had for the past 2 months *thumbs up* Sure you can blame it on lack of players but thats just a poor excuse as you could have done lots of things to help raise the population. Many things which I've also posted in past ideas.

Yes most of the staff are glad I'm fired nice opinion. Considering its just Tseng and his few minions. Nice to see you speak for all of the staff and know how they all feel. :rolleyes: Especially considering I know quite a few staff that arnt. Sorry to burst your magical little bubble there. Now how about you get off your duff and actually do your job for once?

draygin 05-13-2003 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
Hey Guys don't you think this would have been better done in private?? Mainly because this kind of thread is forbidden in the rules... Concerns of a PW or its Management is to be discussed with Nem or the PWA but in this case because it is 2001 and a Graal Server, Stefan is the one to see and I am sure he will not appreciate it being dragged onto these Forums like this. :\

You're right it is up to Stefan so I'll just wait for him to solve the matter. Either way I don't plan on going back even if Stefan asks. Because then I would have to put up with the same crap that has been going on for ages.

Moblojoe 05-14-2003 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by draygin

Ok lets see I wasnt to good at my job either.. But yet aside from Androck's Mushroom job and my making levels some which where never released because "They wanted to release everything in one big update" What other work is done?

I still would like to know what other work was done?

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Originally posted by draygin

I have quite a few projects I had done which I still have was saving for this "Big release" But I dont think I'll turn in now. :)

It's so funny how everytime you get fired or leave a job you go off on how you had all these 'projects' done and waiting to be uploaded to make people think you actually did anything, Hell all you did really that I can think of is like 1/3 of the Desert levels. Just like how when birdbird was manager (I think it was him either that or kamuii) and you were complaining how you deleted all these levels you had done just because he did something (I can't remember what he did).

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Originally posted by draygin

The only thing I complained about is the inactivity of the other staff and them not doing anything yourself included.

Hey I can't do my job unless other people are there to help, I have no Development skills to mention of except Concept and Design. Besides I am almost always on AIM and if you ever needed to get a hold of me I was there.

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Originally posted by draygin

God love those active kingdoms we've had for the past 2 months *thumbs up* Sure you can blame it on lack of players but thats just a poor excuse as you could have done lots of things to help raise the population.

Actually I had plans (and I still do) that could've helped keep People Roleplaying on BM but I never could find anyone good enough to make the things for me.

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Originally posted by draygin

Yes most of the staff are glad I'm fired nice opinion. Considering its just Tseng and his few minions.

Few Minnions? Those few minnions are practically the only Staff on BM :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by draygin

Nice to see you speak for all of the staff and know how they all feel. :rolleyes:

I was baising my opinion on how the majority of the Staff felt -_-

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Originally posted by draygin

Especially considering I know quite a few staff that arnt.

Well thats great and jolly but Most of the Staff are glad you are gone, including Tseng ~ Our Soon-to-be Manager which has alot more say then the 'few staff' that felt you should stay =/

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Originally posted by draygin

Sorry to burst your magical little bubble there. Now how about you get off your duff and actually do your job for once?

Like I said earlier, I can't do my job unless I have people to make the things for me. 'Sorry to burst your magical bubble' :/

Proxy 05-14-2003 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by Kramer
I think Kae should be manager because he's cool :D lol

anyway, forum fighting isn't fun, so work it out.

<3 to Kramer.

Ok, I've read ALL of this thread, and you know what I keep seeing?

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Please, for my sake at least; argue with some integrity, I'm not taking sides, due to the fact I don't know both sides of the story in detail, however, when you call someone stupid or ignorant without proper backing it's only showing your insecurities about yourself on that matter.

If you HAVE to argue or forum fight, and you HAVE to drag it into the public eye, save yourself some humiliation and argue reasonably, I've heard more opinions than statistical facts, and that's just no good.

Milkdude99 05-14-2003 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by Proxy


<3 to Kramer.

Ok, I've read ALL of this thread, and you know what I keep seeing?

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Please, for my sake at least; argue with some integrity, I'm not taking sides, due to the fact I don't know both sides of the story in detail, however, when you call someone stupid or ignorant without proper backing it's only showing your insecurities about yourself on that matter.

If you HAVE to argue or forum fight, and you HAVE to drag it into the public eye, save yourself some humiliation and argue reasonably, I've heard more opinions than statistical facts, and that's just no good.

Although I totally agree with what you say , the thread shouldn't be here at all.:(


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