New Windows Client
 

This needs to be realesed soon, at least as a beta client. I don't care if there are bugs. With the current vista version I have playing Graal is impossible, I can't move, pk, spar, play events, ect. This has gotten really old really fast. So therefore, I really need the client now, otherwise there is no way I can keep playing under the circumstances. It's not very fun when it takes you 45 seconds to move through ONE level. So seriously, lets go.

That's asking a whole lot.

The Windows client is behind in the Mac client... and to be honest why would you worry about Beta? It's beta for a reason. It's to find bugs, and most of the time there are quite a few and some can be annoying enough to not really want to use it. I have the external windows client and I never touch it.

You should just dualboot a different OS, like 7, XP, maybe a linux distro?

Disable Aero or something, it's probably your comp's fault, I haven't an issue with Graal on Vista.

The new Graal version doesn't fix this issue, atleast not on the beta I was using. I experienced a lot of slowdowns on my midrange laptop, however when I had Vista on my PC it was fine. Windows 7 seems to run it more smoothly though, I'll let the forum know how it goes when I install it on my laptop. :redface:

I do use the external windows on terrain maps like GK though, as there is a significant increase in speed. It's also a bit faster on gmaps and with particles, I think.

The Mac version is really close to being done, but Stefan's said that the Windows client is way behind. I have no idea about the Linux client, but I really don't think that one's worth developing, anyway.

I think Skyld said the Windows version is somewhat behind, but mainly it's just not being compiled as much as the Mac. So from what I gathered, it's not THAT behind, only in compiling.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo

The Linux client is always at the same level or better than the Mac client. So one could assume that the Linux client is practically done, just like the Mac client.

Yessssssss

Linux Cyberjoueurs

I can confirm this. When I had Vista on this laptop, I could barely play Graal. Since I upgraded to Windows 7, I've been able to play without any lag at all on the same laptop. :)

This is probably because Stefan use Linux on his computer.

Also, it isn't THAT hard to compile a game for multiple OS'es if you did the code right in the first place. If you can code you can do that with a little to no effort.

I think he's going to wait with windows version bugfixes until he's done with the new additions to the client and fixing the problems for the other OS'es first.

Compiling for Mac OS X and Linux is very easy because they are both UNIX-esque operating systems, they can use nearly all the same function calls and libraries (apart from, of course, using X11 on Linux and Cocoa on OS X but that is quite a small portion of code in reality). Windows, on the other hand, is actually nothing like either OS X or Linux, meaning that things have to be done differently (even things like using DirectX by default) and it takes more time to make the same codebase compatible with Windows.

In the Mac client, the main things that need to be done are bug fixes, which Stefan's been working through. After having done that, he will most likely be able to put more time into fixing it up on Windows too.

I should probably dual boot Linux then.. can anyone give me tips on that b/c linux said if you aren't experienced it could turn out wrong. I am probably going to get Windows 7 soon but I will later.

Yeah, kinda what I meant. I was a little drunk when I wrote that.

You can also run linux programs natively on Mac OS X, as long as you have x11-darwin installed. :P

You can take the application source code of something that runs on Linux and it will often run on Mac OS X after being compiled (as long as you have the correct libraries installed), but you can't take an already compiled Linux binary and run it on OS X. It's a different type of executable format.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

It's not hard at all, the Ubuntu Installer will do everything for you with a GUI provided.

Provided you can use Google to solve your problems, it's not much of a deal to learn the command line side of things.

I know. I'm a linux user. I've installed linux applications on OSX before. :P
No need to explain it to me.

Don't see why so much emphasis is being put to two operating systems the vast majority of the playercount don't use when it's holding back the client most of us want to see updated but ok I guess. Just hope that the update itself doesn't suck and that afterwards some focus is placed on playerworlds and their development.

Probably because it's easier to convert the Linux/Mac client to Windows then vice versa. Purely speculations might I add. >_<

When I disable Aero, the only options I have is windows 95 classic, and that just looks horrible, how do i make it so I don't have aero? yet I have a good looking one.

Right click the Graal exe, properties, compatibility, and check disable desktop composition.

Thanks that seems to work pretty well still a little laggy but not as bad. ty

Sorry to double post, give me an infraction or whatever, I don't really care.

Why does my game performance change when I minimize, maximize, and go full screen?

Minimizing= its not maximized but I am still playing, restore down as you might refer to it

When I minimize I will be fine for a little while then I start lagging, so I maximize. This will allow me to not lag for a bout 3-5 mins then I start to lag. So I go to 600x600 resolution or what ever is close to that. I don't lag for about ten mins but then I start to lag again. So I go back and I minimize and it stops lagging for a little bit, then it starts back up again. Any reasoning for this?

Possible memory leak? Just a rough guess. In that case, whatever leaked would be flushed out when changing the resolution.