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RealDDc 03-07-2009 03:30 PM

Necessary improvement of the player list
 
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2631/ign.jpg

The ignore button should be, as it does now already, block out the private messages by specific persons for every player himself and report the person awareness that his messages are not welcome. That already shortens the untoward jabbering a bit.

But the mute button, should definetly cut out anything of the person listed in there, be it the onscreen chat, guild chat or any other messenger possibility.

This is necessary, and should have been added to this game long ago. That would make the game so mutch more enjoyable, its everyone himself, who he wants to read and talk to, and who definitively not.

kia345 03-07-2009 04:22 PM

I for one would play Era a lot more given the option to ctrl a the playerlist and select mute.

RealDDc 03-07-2009 04:32 PM

Thats nice for Era, but it is badly needed on zone aswell.

Edit: Misunderstood the previous post above, sorry for that.

Ravenblade1979 03-07-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dennis1410 (Post 1472090)
Thats nice for Era, but it is badly needed on zone aswell.

They would still find a way to harass you, like through name changes or with their friends or even through masses where everyone but you could read and someone tells you about it.

RevolutionJS 03-07-2009 05:08 PM

Just dont have enemys :)

RealDDc 03-07-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472093)
They would still find a way to harass you, like through name changes or with their friends or even through masses where everyone but you could read and someone tells you about it.

That doesn't really change anything within that this is required. That would be like you say'd we don't need bans for hackers, cause they will find a way through it anyways.

It is not only annoyance and harassment, but also tons of mental garbage and other stateless special refuse.

Thats needed, and it would increase the enjoyment of the game for many people.

RealDDc 03-07-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1472094)
Just dont have enemys :)

Sounds like an really interesting battle game. :asleep:

RevolutionJS 03-07-2009 05:26 PM

Zone isnt a Game, it is just chatting with Guns.

kia345 03-07-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1472107)
Graal isnt a Game, it is just chatting with Guns.

Zone isn't Graal, just a game with guns.

Liberated 03-07-2009 05:37 PM

zone is only a small part of graal nowadays, compared to the playercount of classic servers atleast.

Ravenblade1979 03-07-2009 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennis1410 (Post 1472102)
It is not only annoyance and harassment, but also tons of mental garbage and other stateless special refuse.

Thats needed, and it would increase the enjoyment of the game for many people.

Until the person or people doing this harassment find another way to harass you..like hunt only you or get you through their friends or even on the forums. I explained to you (i think) that since no one is really face to face online that people will say anything they want because they know that the worst that can happen is a ban. Big deal they will find another game to play.

IRL though people wouldn't dare mouth off for fear of getting their mouth shut with a fist. I really do hope that graal don't have some live meet and greet...actually I take that back..i hope they do...it would be the most polite convention in the world because people would be afraid to lip off at each other.

bahamutstevetff 03-07-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472122)
IRL though people wouldn't dare mouth off for fear of getting their mouth shut with a fist. I really do hope that graal don't have some live meet and greet...actually I take that back..i hope they do...it would be the most polite convention in the world because people would be afraid to lip off at each other.

speak for yourself

RealDDc 03-07-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472122)
(... like hunt only you (...)

Erm, nice! Actually that makes the game interesting.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472122)
(...) or get you through their friends(...)

That is, what this personal mute command is of course aswell for.
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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472122)
(...)or even on the forums

Would save up diskspace and time, taping videos and taking screens.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472122)
(...I explained to you (i think) that since no one is really face to face online that people will say anything they want because they know that the worst that can happen is a ban. Big deal they will find another game to play. IRL though people wouldn't dare mouth off for fear of getting their mouth shut with a fist. I really do hope that graal don't have some live meet and greet...actually I take that back..i hope they do...it would be the most polite convention in the world because people would be afraid to lip off at each other.

Can't find any reason, not to implement this feature. It is simple but results a great advance.

TSAdmin 03-07-2009 06:57 PM

It wouldn't be hard to script a mute function locally for the server. A clientside timeout/loop for players in the same level as you referencing an array (likely in a client. string) of people who's chat should not be seen on your screen, but again- that'd be scripted locally and obviously wouldn't be a built-in feature of the game.

I am pretty sure I saw something similar in the works on Era a while back, and again recently, but I am not sure what ever came of that or why it was never used. I think it was one of Crow's works before he quit. You could use commands like /mute Add Account, /mute Remove Account, and /muteList. Simple stuff.

seanthien 03-07-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennis1410 (Post 1472079)
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2631/ign.jpg

The ignore button should be, as it does now already, block out the private messages by specific persons for every player himself and report the person awareness that his messages are not welcome. That already shortens the untoward jabbering a bit.

But the mute button, should definetly cut out anything of the person listed in there, be it the onscreen chat, guild chat or any other messenger possibility.

This is necessary, and should have been added to this game long ago. That would make the game so mutch more enjoyable, its everyone himself, who he wants to read and talk to, and who definitively not.

That already happens, although it's not a message. They try to PM you and you don't receive the message and on their screen your name turns red or something. I think mute means no voice function? Iuno. I think if you can't deal with the remarks of a 10 year old that plays zone, you should just quit. You'd end up muting pretty much the whole server.

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Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1472127)
It wouldn't be hard to script a mute function locally for the server. A clientside timeout/loop for players in the same level as you referencing an array (likely in a client. string) of people who's chat should not be seen on your screen, but again- that'd be scripted locally and obviously wouldn't be a built-in feature of the game.

I am pretty sure I saw something similar in the works on Era a while back, and again recently, but I am not sure what ever came of that or why it was never used. I think it was one of Crow's works before he quit. You could use commands like /mute Add Account, /mute Remove Account, and /muteList. Simple stuff.

Crow was that awesome?Yay4Mrreplacevulcan.

Elizabeth 03-07-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1472094)
Just dont have enemys :)

that's hard to say when they choose you.

RealDDc 03-07-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1472131)
(...)You'd end up muting pretty much the whole server.

Er, and what exactly is now your problem with that? It can't get mutch more minted than my private message ignore list is right now.

seanthien 03-07-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennis1410 (Post 1472145)
Er, and what exactly is now your problem with that? It can't get mutch more minted than my private message ignore list is right now.

So you're realy ok with playing zone by yourself. I dunno, you just never who you might get along with later on.

Ravenblade1979 03-07-2009 07:34 PM

Why not add mute...just don't say I warned ya.

seanthien 03-07-2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472147)
Why not add mute...just don't say I warned ya.

If you ask me why not, I'd say that zone realy doesn't have enough scripters. They can be working on better things.

RealDDc 03-07-2009 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1472146)
So you're realy ok with playing zone by yourself. I dunno, you just never who you might get along with later on.

Yeah, absolutely. If you scan the zone forum for keywords like "teamplay" or "community" you won't find anything positive about that anyways. The lack of teamplay, and the rants about the community (which the players who post are obviously part of, somehow) won't give me the feeling about missing mutch. :p

jkool666 03-07-2009 11:40 PM

I agree with you Dennis.
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1472150)
If you ask me why not, I'd say that zone realy doesn't have enough scripters. They can be working on better things.

But I also agree with this.

MiniOne 03-08-2009 12:03 AM

I wouldn't mind the mute button working like this.

Rufus 03-08-2009 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472147)
Why not add mute...just don't say I warned ya.

Why would anyone? You didn't.

MiniOne 03-08-2009 06:26 AM

Though a mute button doesn't take that long to script :)
Maybe a few hours at most.

seanthien 03-08-2009 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennis1410 (Post 1472154)
Yeah, absolutely. If you scan the zone forum for keywords like "teamplay" or "community" you won't find anything positive about that anyways. The lack of teamplay, and the rants about the community (which the players who post are obviously part of, somehow) won't give me the feeling about missing mutch. :p

Obviously i'm not a part of the community, so dun point fingers at me. You haven't seen any "teamplay"? All the lamers working 2gether. Sounds like teamplay to me.
Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1472285)
Though a mute button doesn't take that long to script :)
Maybe a few hours at most.

Some people may only have a few hours a day to work on something before they have others things to care to in real life or something.

RealDDc 03-09-2009 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1472354)
Obviously i'm not a part of the community, so dun point fingers at me.

That wasn't my intend, it was ment as a general statement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1472354)
You haven't seen any "teamplay"? All the lamers working 2gether. Sounds like teamplay to me.

There is a good difference, as I think, between teaming/ gangin by gathering together out of the situation, or a intended teamplay to enforce and battle another team.

RealDDc 03-09-2009 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1472202)
I agree with you Dennis. (...) But I also agree with this.

Well, thanks to TSAdmin I have that script here, so it should not be mutch time consuming to implement it.

jkool666 03-09-2009 04:20 AM

Alright, I will discuss this with Dan :). Thank you Dennis and TSAdmin.

MiniOne 03-09-2009 07:34 AM

:) Nice Dennis
Would Dan also except work for the local guild system?
Since I can easily get some scripts for him.

Deas_Voice 03-09-2009 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1472511)
:) Nice Dennis
Would Dan also except work for the local guild system?
Since I can easily get some scripts for him.

and what do you mean by "get"?
take it from another server?
i hope you mean that you script it yourself.

bahamutstevetff 03-09-2009 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice (Post 1472643)
and what do you mean by "get"?
take it from another server?
i hope you mean that you script it yourself.

he keeps ranting about how he could script it in like 5 minuets.

seanthien 03-09-2009 10:17 PM

I doubt he can realy make it. He said "get" not "make".

MiniOne 03-10-2009 07:10 AM

Well I meant I could ask for scripts from other servers but if I had to make it I could within a few weeks though. Since I don't script using G2, I tend to use C++ or C# which isn't what graal uses.

seanthien 03-10-2009 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1472866)
Well I meant I could ask for scripts from other servers but if I had to make it I could within a few weeks though. Since I don't script using G2, I tend to use C++ or C# which isn't what graal uses.

Bad ideaaa.

MiniOne 03-11-2009 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1473009)
Bad ideaaa.

I realised this too.. since Zone's local guild system seems to be using different scripts according to the pictures.
I would script for this if I knew G2 rather then C++


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