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jkool666 03-05-2009 11:44 PM

What do you wish to see done to Zone?
 
Alright, several ideas have come up recently and I would like the players to decide what I bug Dan to work on. (All ideas will eventually be worked on, this is just asking you what you want done first)

A. My local guild idea:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=82657

B. My idea to place Gelat/In-Shop weapons into classes to balance them:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=84219
^

C. Tsunami/IXIs Idea to award some type of points for completeing game objectives: (Sorry IXI, its not the exact same as yours. I was wrong.)
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1453103)
Awarding a type of currency thats only achieveable through Winning Iricia matches isn't a bad idea... I could see that really motivating players to capture bases.
This type of currency would need to be used to purchase something unique that can't be gained in ANY other manner though.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=83391
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=84409

D. Fixing Glitches

E. Create new Event/Class/Gelat Weapons

F. Further balance the current weapons we have. (Meaning alter the stats on specific weapons)

pooper200000 03-06-2009 12:04 AM

I would rather we work on fixing problems in the current system by implementing a mixture of all of the above in a sequential and mixed order, rather than to have these tasks completed one by one.

I would like to fix glitches and weapons, as that should be the first focus before we move to implement anything new. As an example, if you were building a house and had laid the foundation, you would make sure you had a strong foundation to build upon before building the walls, otherwise the house might fall over. Much like this, I think that without the strong foundation of content being soundless as far as glitches, that it should become necessary to fix what we have before focusing on larger tasks.

After focusing on fixing glitches and balancing the weapons we currently have (An example of balancing would be to lower the time the effects from the Goo pistol and Lava Pistol, as well as disabling jetpacks when they are hit by bombs), I think we should focus on creating new content. While the guilds system will provide some needed vitality to the community, the chances are that without content to play it on, that the guild system will serve little effect.

Therefore, I propose that after fixing the glitches and further balancing weapons, that we should work on creating existing and lasting content. To build upon the new content that could be added, as well as diagnosing and fixing some of the problems in the current content, I think the points idea for completing objectives should be accepted and created.

Perhaps instead of ruining some of the advantages that some players did pay for (Having weapons in there inventories), I think we should focus on making weapons cost points as well as gelats after a certain level. Some of the stronger weapons could require 5 points (Or more) and the weapons could be bought for a combination of Zone in game currency as well as gelats. Doing this would fix the problems with all the money that is currently out, and then we could focus on adding things to the zone in game money shop.

After all of these, I think that creating your guild system may be the best solution. I also think we should add more short term goals (Eg: Having a weapon that goes to the player that currently has the most kills for the day)

Creating new event weapons should be one of the last priorites. Event weapons are great, but they will not do anything to contribute as far as content, and are only earned by a few skilled players.

Just an idea, and I wanted to sequence these, as I think these should all be done, but wanted to point out the items that I felt need priority.

seanthien 03-06-2009 12:06 AM

Too much to read, All I read was "We should do all of these". I don't think zone has the ammount of scripters to work on all of it effectively.

Nataxo 03-06-2009 12:11 AM

ANYTHING. ;)

Though I strongly support Tsunamis idea and Jesse's local guild idea.

jkool666 03-06-2009 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1471683)
Just an idea, and I wanted to sequence these, as I think these should all be done, but wanted to point out the items that I felt need priority.

I suppose I should have made it clear, they all will be done. This is more asking players what they want done first. Thank you.

MiniOne 03-06-2009 08:17 AM

Order of what I'd like seen done, I'm sure that SN would like this order as well.
1) Fixing Glitches
2) Further balance the current weapons we have. (Meaning alter the stats on specific weapons)
3) My local guild idea
4) Tsunami/IXIs Idea to award some type of points for completing game objectives: (Sorry IXI, its not the exact same as yours. I was wrong.)
5) Create new Event/Class/Gelat Weapons <--- This should only be done after balancing the current weapons since adding more would throw this system more out of balance then what it currently is at.

My idea to place Gelat/In-Shop weapons into classes to balance them:
I think this idea should just be scratched, its extremely dumb limiting guns purchased with real money to be limited to a certain class. I think rather then this just allow players to carry one gelat pistol, one gelat rifle and so on. So they decide which gun they wish to carry and this way they can't just keep swapping between guns as simply.

Also the removal of hotkeys would be great :) We did fine without them and since they were added they've done nothing but increase laming.

bahamutstevetff 03-06-2009 01:12 PM

the loal guilds idea would be worth doing IF the guilds are like 3 guilds, pre named, run by 1 leader. if its player made guilds then i wouldn,t even bother.

otherwise, i vote C, i think with C, more players will be encouraged to play the game and be rewarded for victory, (you could eventually span it out to make each planet give specific currency, and each planet currency buy different weapons?).

Jesper 03-06-2009 01:33 PM

I like to see your local guild idea, also the winning points idea is very nice ! (no more laming i think) I think we don't need more event, but some new ACTIVE ETs would be good for a higher playercount!

Schetti 03-06-2009 02:58 PM

I laguh if someone votes for E!
OH yea, I will.

Dan 03-06-2009 03:09 PM

Progress on A:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2614/hotm.jpg

Jesper 03-06-2009 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 1471826)

WTF !! Realy nice !

And that weapons, its lovely !

Deas_Voice 03-06-2009 04:20 PM

make it so we can vote for several options :\
i vote A, B and C.

bahamutstevetff 03-06-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice (Post 1471832)
make it so we can vote for several options :\
i vote A, B and C.

that kind of defeats the object of voting for which one you want doing first.

Deas_Voice 03-06-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1471834)
that kind of defeats the object of voting for which one you want doing first.

i know ^^

pico57 03-06-2009 05:03 PM

nice DAN, Your squad thing

jkool666 03-06-2009 10:27 PM

What is developed first is going to be based on the poll (I hope). I want the majority of players to decide what gets done and when.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 1471826)
Progress on A:

I would like frequent updates on your progress. I want to know everything you impliment into that system, as I'd like it made exactly (more or less) as I described it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1471814)
the loal guilds idea would be worth doing IF the guilds are like 3 guilds, pre named, run by 1 leader. if its player made guilds then i wouldn,t even bother.

It's not being scripted that way for obvious reasons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1471790)
I think this idea should just be scratched, its extremely dumb limiting guns purchased with real money to be limited to a certain class.

That idea is not up for debate. It's to incredible of an idea. If you're so "oldbie" then you should know Zone went further downhill when certain weapons were enabled for all classes.

MiniOne 03-06-2009 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1471882)
That idea is not up for debate. It's to incredible of an idea. If you're so "oldbie" then you should know Zone went further downhill when certain weapons were enabled for all classes.

Wow I can already see that people are going to be going on about how they paid REAL MONEY for items which are basically like a class item. E.g. Sci fi, which use Sci fi pistols when you can just pick lightinfantry and use aprippers :)

jkool666 03-06-2009 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1471886)
Wow I can already see that people are going to be going on about how they paid REAL MONEY for items which are basically like a class item.

The amount of support I recieved for that idea is reason enough to release it.

I will make sure its advertised well before the idea is implimented. And they won't be "basically" like a class item, they ARE a class item lol. Their just class weapons that you need to pay money to use.

I'm surprised you are argueing this idea, I thought you were one of those players who wanted Zone to be the way it was...

bahamutstevetff 03-06-2009 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1471882)
It's not being scripted that way for obvious reasons.
.

which way, what reasonsm explain more? :O

MagikMasterMind 03-06-2009 11:17 PM

My Idea (C).

bahamutstevetff 03-06-2009 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind (Post 1471904)
My Idea (C).

Quote:

C. Tsunami/IXIs Idea to award some type of points for completeing game objectives: (Sorry IXI, its not the exact same as yours. I was wrong.)
taking all the credit eh?

MagikMasterMind 03-06-2009 11:25 PM

I do, you just copied my idea, and changed it a bit to not make it look like plagiarism.

MiniOne 03-06-2009 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1471899)
The amount of support I recieved for that idea is reason enough to release it.

I will make sure its advertised well before the idea is implimented. And they won't be "basically" like a class item, they ARE a class item lol. Their just class weapons that you need to pay money to use.

I'm surprised you are argueing this idea, I thought you were one of those players who wanted Zone to be the way it was...

I didn't want Weapons to be locked up into a certain class, I wanted them to just remove hotkeys, balance out the weapons and fix the base laming. I'm just saying after this idea is completed you'll get a lot of complaints and also does that mean my magnums and blue rifle will be locked into a class to?

seanthien 03-06-2009 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind (Post 1471915)
I do, you just copied my idea, and changed it a bit to not make it look like plagiarism.

If you nubswanna go there, I came up with a idea similar to that like a year+ ago.

bahamutstevetff 03-06-2009 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind (Post 1471915)
I do, you just copied my idea, and changed it a bit to not make it look like plagiarism.

i never even read that thread, i assumed my idea would be different because yours was a "holiday idea" :P

MagikMasterMind 03-06-2009 11:34 PM

<.<
Okay, we're both insanelly intelligent for finding this idea.

bahamutstevetff 03-06-2009 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind (Post 1471925)
<.<
Okay, we're both insanelly intelligent for finding this idea.

hmmm ill go with that

Dan 03-06-2009 11:36 PM

More progress (I just took a random prize).

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8726/lolwvt.jpg

jkool666 03-06-2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 1471929)
More progress (I just took a random prize).

What happens if a player knows the password but the Guild Leader doesn't want them to join? With the imaturity of the average Zone Player, Guild Passwords will surely be mass messaged around the server.

bahamutstevetff 03-06-2009 11:54 PM

create your own squad team = fail

maybe it will make people realise they can make a free guild at the website.

i forsee this to be another of zones epic failure updates.

sorry for my honesty.

jkool666 03-06-2009 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1471942)
sorry for my honesty.

"sorry for my" opinion*

You made a typo :].

Dan 03-06-2009 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1471937)
What happens if a player knows the password but the Guild Leader doesn't want them to join? With the imaturity of the average Zone Player, Guild Passwords will surely be mass messaged around the server.

It's double security. The Guild Leader has to login to Zone with his account first, and then to add/remove members this password will also be required. It's just double security for incase someone loses his password (this way the money of the Squad Team, including all members cannot be lost).

bahamutstevetff 03-06-2009 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1471948)
"sorry for my" opinion*

You made a typo :].

no i didnt.

seanthien 03-07-2009 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1471948)
"sorry for my" opinion*

You made a typo :].

Quote:

Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1471951)
no i didnt.

You're both wrong. It's steve's "honest opinion". Ha.

bahamutstevetff 03-07-2009 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1471969)
You're both wrong. It's steve's "honest opinion". Ha.

my opinion is always correct.

MiniOne 03-07-2009 12:48 AM

Lol Double security. xD This made me LOL since I was wondering who would want to hack into a guild anyway, since they'd end up getting kicked.

Ravenblade1979 03-07-2009 04:57 AM

@minione: Its not the guild they would want, its the person's account. The guild would just be a bonus.

MiniOne 03-07-2009 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472026)
@minione: Its not the guild they would want, its the person's account. The guild would just be a bonus.

How would they get the person's password from the guild?

pico57 03-07-2009 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 1471929)
More progress (I just took a random prize).

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8726/lolwvt.jpg

Oh i just realise. on the picture, there is a new character i think like a trader, but he is there for Squads.
Check, behind the Window' squad team etc' we ca see a "squad manager"
D:

seanthien 03-07-2009 07:21 PM

I saw that a long time ago.


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